This is a great read https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2019/07/grain-free-dog-food-fda-warning/593167/ As Tully's IMS (internal medicine specialist) said, the boutique brands don't do recalls, not because they don't have any issues but because they don't have the quality control. They just quietly reformulate or do nothing. He doesn't treat dogs where the owners continue using boutique brands because he sees far too many dogs getting sick on it. At the moment there are only 5 brands who bother doing research, my hope is that companies will now make a bigger effort to research their products in light of what has happened. In the meantime the tax payers are now forking out for research that the companies should have done in the first place. For me the WSAVA guidelines is the basic I expect a dog food company to follow - it's been a real eye-opener to discover most companies don't! In Australia in the last couple of years there's been so many poorly formulated products causing deaths in cats and dogs that my trust is very low. Cheryl there are other sites on DCM. The one I read has over 80k member - it must be a nightmare to moderate. They present the research they find, I'm not sure what else people expect. Thousands of new members get on and ask what to feed their dogs or want to argue, and all the mods can do is refer to the 5 WSAVA compliant brands, you just cannot individually answer 80k people. If people want further information they should ask these questions of their own vets or a nutritionist (and not the high school student at the local pet store). I'd suggest to anyone not wanting to feed from the WSAVA compliant brands contact the company that produces the food you want to use and ask the WSAVA guideline questions that matter to you - things like where do you source your ingredients, where do you manufacture - is it in-house or out-sourced manufacture, how did you research and test your product, do you have a nutritionist on staff that formulates your product? Be pro-active. As for the continued comments about it being a very small number - very sad for the owners who's dogs have died. Remember these are only the proven cases - tip of the iceberg because most people will not be spending all the time and money to get an echo or necropsy. Think of a Venn diagram, the reported cases are a subset of a subset of a subset... If 100 people were known to have died (and hundreds of others made sick) by eating 'product X' would you still keep eating 'product X'?