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Feeding raw chicken and the risk of Salmonella?

Discussion in 'BARF, Raw & Natural Diets' started by mikebdub, Feb 21, 2009.

  1. mikebdub

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    EDIT: In the topic I don't mean the risk of Salmonella in the dogs, but in humans after the dog eats and jumps on us with "dirty" paws.

    ok so Cali is not going to get her first raw RMB tonight because the girlfriend is freaking out about Salmonella. I could not find anything that was not smoked at the local grocery store and I figured it would be a good idea to start out simple to make sure her belly was going to agree with it so I opted for some pretty large perdue chicken drumsticks. I had it all measured out to her weight and I plan on doing kibble in the morning and then raw at night until I see how it plays out. I plan on feeding in her crate on the plastic tray and then wiping it down with a chlorox wipe afterwards. What about her legs/paws and everything else that comes in contact with the meat? My girlfriend is a nurse so she freaks out about germs constantly.

    Is there a risk in this and if so what do you guys do to clean up your pups after eating? Thanks!
     
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  2. JessicaR

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    well I am not much of a germ freak. what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger! :lol: when I feed Belle I just put in her bowl and let her eat it though 9 times out of 10 she sets the food on the floor and eats it there. I will wipe the floor afterwards. I don't usually bother to wipe Belle but then she usually doesn't get any on her.
     
  3. Crestlynn

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    Well my doggies are munching on raw chicken as we speak. One is under the dining room table, on the carpet (NOT by my choice...she ran off with it LOL) and the other is in her crate. Most of my dogs eat in their crates at night as this is just easier for me with having several dogs to make sure no one gets anyone else's dinner! As for wiping it out, I don't really worry about it too much. They lick up most of their mess :smile2:

    I also have young children that play with all of the dogs immediately after eating and we have not had a problem as of yet. I've been completely raw since Oct. and even weaned a litter raw. And you know kids and puppies!!! I think the poor things were still chewing when the kids would grab them LOL

    I am very careful to wash my hands good and I have long nails so I do take a brush and clean under them too. I clean the counters and cutting board with clorox clean up when I'm done. I'm careful about what I touch when dealing with the meat such as opening the fridge or cupboards. But other than that I am very lax with my clean up of the dogs and their crates, and as I've said, no one has been sick yet!

    I'm not sure where you are located but there is usually a good priced chicken leg quarters sold frozen in 10 lb. bags at WalMart or Save a Lot stores. You can also join a co-op meat buying group. Most that I have seen are very careful to get hormone free meats at reasonable prices.

    I say...ditch the kibble and jump right in :wink2:
     
  4. Lahree

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    Ellie's breeder is very pro-raw and encouraged me to feed Ellie raw, but I can't afford it and don't want to mess with it. I asked my breeder this specific question about my Sheltie eating raw for the very same reason worrying about salmonella. She said that the food goes through a dog too quickly to get such a thing. She reminded that dogs were designed to eat raw. Their ancestors never had their meat cooked or processed. Wolves do not eat processed foods. Huskies used for transportation up in Alaska eat raw seal, moose, fish, you name it--raw. They have different digestive enzymes than humans and were built to eat raw.
     
  5. mikebdub

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    Cali is a little pig and if a mess can be made of her food, she will do it! I have read a few places that Salmonella does not live on dog fur, skin, or in the saliva and it only lives in the feces. I am pretty good about washing my hands before eating and what not, but I could see her completely disowning the dog until she gets a bath because she had chicken for dinner. I also want to see if my cat Baxter will take to a raw treat every now and then so she (as usual) has put the brakes on my whole operation :)
     
  6. mikebdub

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    I did see in the store earlier a Perdue "large leg quarters" pack that was REALLY cheap. I am not sure on the exact weight of the package, but it was literally like $2.50 and it had to be at least 3+ pounds. I was tempted to get it, but figured I would start with a small package of about 5 drumsticks just to make sure all was well and good before getting a huge package.

    I don't plan on feeding 100% raw until about August (hopefully no later) when we move and I have room for a large meat freezer and it will also give me plenty of time to do a ton more research on the topic.

    I think tomorrow I am just going to go ahead and give her a drumstick regardless of what the woman says! LOL! The kibble she is on now makes her breath smell horrible and builds up fast on her teeth so if I can cut it in half daily atleast until we move it should make a bit of a difference. I still plan on feeding kibble in the morning since I usually take her for a walk, she goes potty, she eats/drinks, out for one more potty and then I am off to work for my 8 hours and I don't want to have to worry about something happening while I am gone. She has never had a issue on the kibble so I worry less when I leave. So kibble in the morning with her "special mix-in" which is just filtered water from the pitcher but she goes CRAZY for it for some reason.. and then a RMB for her dinner.

    I just need to convince the gf that she is not going to get salmonella from Cali eating a raw chicken leg and then jumping on the couch afterwards.. ugh this should be fun *sigh*
     
  7. Crestlynn

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    And as a nurse your girlfriend should know there is Salmonella in most feces :wink2:

    Yes, some of them will shake their meat and that can get sloppy LOL Especially when I add a little hot water and some DE...they sling it EVERYWHERE!
     
  8. Crestlynn

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    The 10lb. package I get is $4.60!!! Yep.... 46 cents a pound! It is Gold Leaf brand and hormone and additive free. They get this about 3 times a week. Oh, and the FREE venison from hunters is always fun too!

    I think the fresh breath is soooo worth it!!! I just took three dogs to a dog show and didn't have to scrape ANY of their teeth and one has only been raw for about 3 weeks. That was wonderful :smile2:
     
  9. mikebdub

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    Yeah I can't wait for hunting season. Her family is pretty much ALL hunters so there is always lots of meat to go around and now that I know that my pup can feast on some of it too I am happy! We had so much deer meet in our freezer that it went bad last year from not being able to use it!

    I just wish that Kim would get past the fact that as long as she isn't licking the couch or the floor where Cali walks after eating and washes her hands before she eats (like you should be doing anyway) there will be no issues! I have never heard of someone becoming sick from salmonella being airborne! LOL

    Cali's front teeth are nice and sparkly white, but her rear teeth are kinda funky so this will be nice to aid in cleaning them up. I can't wait to go 100% raw because I just don't trust any dog food companies anymore. I am going to start researching the same for my cat too for going raw. I will feel much happier feeding something that I myself will eat (cooked of course!) then something out of a bag that I have no idea whats in it!
     
  10. Crestlynn

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    I went raw because I needed to know exactly (or as close as possible) what I was feeding my dogs.

    Too bad you didn't save that old deer meat....the dogs don't mind it a little (or a lot) funky!!! And remember they can eat most of the stuff that hunters don't want to bother with like the ribs, necks, organs, etc. I was also able to let mine chew on the bottom of the legs and get the fur off....the best tooth brush I could have asked for!!! They aren't strong chewers though and I wasn't terribly concerned about broken teeth on the hard bone.

    Have you looked at any of the really good raw sites or joined any of the raw groups? They are a wealth of information and can give you many details to tell the GF so that she doesn't freak any more :smile2:
     

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