Thanks all! Lucky is gone. She "crossed the Rainbow Bridge" on 6/18. So hard to do but I think it was the time.... More than. Everyone, thanks so much for your advice and care. If I ever have another Sheltie, which would be wonderful, it will be in part because all of you made me feel secure in having a dog that needed and loved people the way Lochiel did.. Love your Shelties! They are precious! I see that a lot of people here keep their Obviously beloved shelties going for a long time Into old age and illness. I can certainly understand. I Have a very much loved 13-year-old sheltie named Lochiel, whom we call Lucky. She has hip dysplasia and a leg that is being worn away with arthritis. She is kept fairly comfortable (or has been by the use of tramadol and gabapentin. I wonder if I should ask her to go much further though. She eats but not as much as she used to, she still has a treat if if I give it to her Seems to enjoy it. But I can tell that things are hurting her very much and she’s tired. She is deaf or almost. How can one know when it’s time? I think that the moment comes when for the dogs sake euthanasia is a benediction.I know she would stay with me as long as she can, until she is a rag and a bone. She would stay till the very last breath. But I think she’s in a lot of discomfort. She’s not whining but sometimes she cringes when I pet her.I would like her to stay till spring but I don’t know if I should ask her to. I don’t know if the time is yet. Any thoughts? By the way I will not make the decision solely on the basis of these discussions alone (but thank you so much). I have a good vet!