A little help with weaves???

As for motivation, does she run after a ball? You can set up two lines of weaves in a channel and roll the ball down the middle and see if she will chase it. If she does HUGE praise, like she just won the presidency!:biggrin2:

She does play fetch. But not very excitedly. She'll trot after it then slowly bring it back. Her attitude is, "You threw it! Why am I bringing it back (princesses!)?! Your just gonna have to wait for me.":rolleyes2:But that would work wonderfully on Joe! Throw him a ball and your best buds for life!:biggrin2:
 
Training a dog to weave shouldn't happen until the dogs growth plates have closed so as to avoid harming their growing bodies. Trainers around here typically like to wait until they are fifteen months old to start teaching weave poles.
That said, I would take time away from worrying about the weave poles, and work on building toy drive, food drive, and a strong desire to chase you and work with you. I would recommend Susan Garrett's Shaping Success book, Silvia Trkman's tricks DVDs, and her ready steady go DVD which works on building drive and speed. Once you have a dog who wants to work, chase, and play, it is much easier to teach them anything you want in agility.
People often forget it isn't all about teaching the obstacles. It also involves teaching them to want to play with us and how to learn.
You may try clean run for a toy she may like better. Not all dogs are extremely toy motivated. Some are more food motivated. For these dogs, I prefer using a Ready Treat, lotus ball, or a tug it training toy.
http://www.cleanrun.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=3098&ParentCat=52
http://www.cleanrun.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=1669&ParentCat=22
http://www.cleanrun.com/index.cfm?f...duct_id=2139&ParentCat=675&string=ready treat
I also like a toy on a rope. Some dogs who aren't very motivated by traditional toys will like these. You can buy them premade from clean run, or just attach a dot to the end. Make it move around like prey. If she responds, you can take it out and use it as a reward for weaving instead.
 
Although I didn't set out on any specific training plan with Epic, quite by chance I found what switched him on was playing with a frisbee. I had tried tugs, balls, squeakies etc but the frisbee was the thing. I spent a lot of time last autumn playing with it and working on getting him to bring it to me. His first two frisbees got pretty chewed up because to begin with he would get it and chew, but using the clicker and liver treats I gradually built a solid return to hand. All three of my dogs have their preferred reward method, but Epic is the only one with real toy drive and it is very useful.

It's important that the toy has real value so they only get it when playing with me. No access to it at other times and even during training, he only gets it briefly for the reward period. If I pick up the frisbee, Epic gets super excited but at the same time, he knows he has to earn it so he won't try and snatch it. It is important to teach the dog how to play (the rules) before trying to play as a reward. With Epic, the toy playing sessions gradually built motivation - the more we played the keener he became.

A lot of people here have a toy which incorporates food and play. It's a fake fur pouch with velcro closure and a 'tail' that is about 8". Food is put in the pouch and the toy is then thrown, whisked about etc to get interest then the dog is shown that the treats are taken out of the pouch and he gets them. I've seen unenthusiastic dogs get pretty keen on this in a very short space of time so that might work for you. But you do need to do this as a seperate training excersise as others have said.

I trained the 2x2 weave method and Epic learned that reasonably quickly (inspite of being hindered by me being a novice too) and does weave fast so I wouldn't be wanting to train that way until at least a year old. He was 15 months when I started. There's a thread on here that pretty much covers our weave journey (2x2 - Where am I going wrong?) and you can probably tell from that it wasn't plain sailing and the foundation/ early stages were little progress and much frustration! But we got there and now I working on putting it into a sequence which is another cycle of training. I find that weaving is a lot more tiring for him than say jumping sequences or a brisk hour's walk so I've always kept the sessions very short. Actually there's probably more time spent putting the poles out and away than running though them! :lol:

I agree with HopeShelties because I found doing foundation stuff (shaping games/thnking/balance excersises) has paid dividends and is loads of fun too. :biggrin2:
 
There are many things you can start foundation training with, I wouldn't start with weaves as a beginner step with a 9 months old puppy.
Definitely a good idea to work on motivation and fun and circle work, basic obedience etc etc

For weaves I only know the 2x2 and that has worked fairly well
 
Cheese!

I've found it! Ham and cheese is her motivator! I've tried ham before, but she always wanted to go do something else. She never really got interested in it. But I was cutting up some cheddar cheese today and she was watching every move I made (the other dogs were outside at the time). So I *accidentally* dropped a peace. Now usually she'll see it drop, look at it for a few seconds, then slowly walk forward, give it a good sniff, then SOMETIMES eat it. But this time when that food hit the ground she was on top of it in an instant! So I cut some up in little bites along with some ham and her usual treats and mixed them up and started training. I've never seen her work so hard to get food! Now I'm supper exited!

I've also been working on her toy drive. I was FINALLY able to get her to play a 5 minute game of fetch. I couldn't believe it! Her tail was moving excitedly the whole time! She's been begging for more treats for about 20 minutes now, she should have lost interest 19 and a half minutes ago:lol:! I'm such a proud and happy furmommy!:biggrin2:

Right now I'll teach her the 2x2 weaves. She'll get the idea, then when she's done growing I'll work on actual weaving. Thanks for all your help!:hugs
 
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