Allows All AKC Heights in ISC Classes - Jan 2014

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Link to rules, scroll down to last page at the bottom.
This is also all the new rules for 2014.

Clubs may offer the ISC classes at heights specified in Chapter 2, Section 4 for Regular classes and Chapter 8, Section 9 for
Preferred Classes. All heights must be included if the club offers jump heights in addition to those listed above for Small,
Medium and Large Agility at the trial. Jumps must conform to height specifications for the Regular and Preferred Heights....

Trials including the Regular and Preferred Jump Heights will assign Standard Course Times (SCT’s) as follows:
For Regular jump heights:
8, 12 inches will be assigned the SCT calculated for Small Agility
-16 inches will be assigned SCT calculated for Medium Agility
-20, 24, 26 inches will be assigned SCT calculated for Large Dog Agility.
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If I'm reading this right, does that mean you can run ISC at your regular height, but they adjust the SCT?

So, if I ever choose to run for the fun of trying an ISC course, what would Koji jump? He's almost 18" tall, so in Regular, he runs 16". In the regular ISC rules, he falls in Large dogs and would jump 26" (that's even more ridiculous than USDAA rules. I can't believe a 17" dog would have to jump 9" above their withers....crazy).

So would he jump 16", his regular height, but that's "medium dog" agility? Or does he jump 20" lowest "large dog" agility? How confusing!

Do any of you ever run ISC?
 
Me, overthinking something? Never!

I guess it just doesn't make sense, the jump heights. LOL. Oh well. If it means I can test out an ISC course for the fun of it, without having to jump 26", yay!
 
k9kreationz said:
Me, overthinking something? Never!

I guess it just doesn't make sense, the jump heights. LOL. Oh well. If it means I can test out an ISC course for the fun of it, without having to jump 26", yay!
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Well they do make sense: the original jump heights match those that would be required in international competition. The ISC classes when held have been used as one path to team USA selection: results of ISC competition are handled different from regular classes. Winners of the combined ISC classes are *invited* to team USA tryouts. If not invited then you have to qualify for team tryouts (although that in itself is not difficult to achieve).

However, as you have recognized for many dogs these heights are considered too high & so entries to ISC non-regular classes tend to be smaller.
The rule change addresses this by allowing the host club to choose to offer regular jump heights.
A club could choose to stick with just the non-regular heights.
You would have to check what the trials premium states.
Should the premium accept entries for regular jump heights then this also allows for teams running in Preferred to keep their dog jumping at their lowered height rather than requiring those dogs to jump an even higher increased height (and span for spreads which is considerably wider in ISC).
 
Not all ISC classes are used as team qualifiers. Ours at the Kentucky cluster had ISC yet it wasn't a team qualifier. Only certain trials during the year with ISC are used as team qualifiers.
I won it in 14" one year with Athena. Then at the Cleveland trial was 3rd combined with Kai, though would've won if she didn't drop a bar on both runs because it was on slick flooring and her normal jump height is 12" (she was jumping 18" because she's 14" tall). The Cleveland trial was one of the team qualifiers.
 
Sealtainn said:
Well they do make sense: the original jump heights match those that would be required in international competition. The ISC classes when held have been used as one path to team USA selection: results of ISC competition are handled different from regular classes. Winners of the combined ISC classes are *invited* to team USA tryouts. If not invited then you have to qualify for team tryouts (although that in itself is not difficult to achieve).

However, as you have recognized for many dogs these heights are considered too high & so entries to ISC non-regular classes tend to be smaller.
The rule change addresses this by allowing the host club to choose to offer regular jump heights.
A club could choose to stick with just the non-regular heights.
You would have to check what the trials premium states.
Should the premium accept entries for regular jump heights then this also allows for teams running in Preferred to keep their dog jumping at their lowered height rather than requiring those dogs to jump an even higher increased height (and span for spreads which is considerably wider in ISC).
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I suppose what I don't understand is....AKC is allowing these new heights for ISC, so you can try out for the team. But, if you make the team and you go to the FCI Agility Championship, you're going to have to jump the typical 14, 18, 26 jump heights. So what is the point of having these new heights?

I just saw that in order to have qualifying runs, you have to jump at the standard 14, 18, 26 heights anyways, so again, I don't get what the point is by allowing a dog to jump their own height. Obviously you're running the course for the fun of it and not to qualify for the team. If I was trying to qualify for the world team, waiting around for all the other jump heights seems like a waste of time. I'd just split the classes so the qualifying heights, 14/18/26 run first, then the other non-qualifying heights can run.
 
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HopeShelties said:
Not all ISC classes are used as team qualifiers. Ours at the Kentucky cluster had ISC yet it wasn't a team qualifier. Only certain trials during the year with ISC are used as team qualifiers.
I won it in 14" one year with Athena. Then at the Cleveland trial was 3rd combined with Kai, though would've won if she didn't drop a bar on both runs because it was on slick flooring and her normal jump height is 12" (she was jumping 18" because she's 14" tall). The Cleveland trial was one of the team qualifiers.
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I saw that too. I was thinking about maybe going to this trial, since it's so close. And the premium stated it was a qualifier for the team tryouts. After reading all the rules, I'm going to have to pass. I can't imagine Koji would do well being crated (packed in) with a ton of other dogs. I may go check it out, though, just to watch the ISC runs.
 
AKC jump heights

Obviously you're running the course for the fun of it and not to qualify for the team. To me, that's a waste of time. Or I'd just split the classes so the serious people don't have to wait around watching all the for fun people. But that's just me.[/QUOTE]

Your saying or am I just reading wrong that qualifying for the world team is a waste of time?
 
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