Do you have a NRM (no reinforcement marker)?

[corbinam]

I think this is why I'd be afraid to have something like that. I might say it when I screw up and that's not fair to them. lol. Heck, we all know it's usually our fault.

That's why I only use it in the most specific of circumstances. I use it on a missed weave entry, and now I use it when Lexi self-releases on her 2o2o. I only "correct" her when she totally blows it, but I give her my NRM when she comes off too soon. (That was what Stuart recommended since a full out correction on a good contact where she came off just a touch too soon was demotivating to her)

 

[k9kreationz]

Just cuz I"m being lazy.

Is an NRM something that needs to be taught? Or do you just do it and hopefully they learn what it means?

I am amazed at how much I've learned about dog training by just doing agility. Yikes! I have also learned I'm not trainer material. LOL

 

[corbinam]

Is an NRM something that needs to be taught? Or do you just do it and hopefully they learn what it means?

You train it by using it. So when Lexi misses a weave pole entry and I say "what happened" and I pull her back out, she starts to understand that she has missed something.

 

[k9kreationz]

Thanks Ashley! I'll have to come up with something and learn more about it so I'm smarter.

 

[Toffee's Mom]

when I pull Toffee out of the weaves I say aww not quite, try it again

I am also occasionally sending him back in into the pole if he popped out on... But right now his issue is more correct entry at which point I call him off.. once he is in he is pretty good about not popping out... KNOCK on wood.

PS I am starting to think I am finally ready to reward for speed now, instead of just completion... wish me luck!

 

[Justicemom]

when I pull Toffee out of the weaves I say aww not quite, try it again

I am also occasionally sending him back in into the pole if he popped out on... But right now his issue is more correct entry at which point I call him off.. once he is in he is pretty good about not popping out... KNOCK on wood.

PS I am starting to think I am finally ready to reward for speed now, instead of just completion... wish me luck!

I did something the other night with Diva not meaning to. She missed the entry and I called her to me without using the NRM and just sent her back in again, missed it again did the same thing. Diva went crazy started barking, missed it again, bark bark bark. Told her wrong. She settled right down, focused and hit the entry and did the whole set of 12 perfect.

I have been working so hard on not giving her any corrections even verbal ones(bad obedience habit) that she was totally frustrated by the lack of feedback and thought I was just stoppping her from her fun for no reason. So I guess it is what the dog is used to. I did rally with Ember to get her more ring time after she already had her CD. Ember hated that I talked to her in the ring. Hated it! She was so use to silence during heeling that it freak her out. Didn't care if I was praising her.

 

[corbinam]

when I pull Toffee out of the weaves I say aww not quite, try it again

I am also occasionally sending him back in into the pole if he popped out on... But right now his issue is more correct entry at which point I call him off.. once he is in he is pretty good about not popping out... KNOCK on wood.

PS I am starting to think I am finally ready to reward for speed now, instead of just completion... wish me luck!

Irene, this is just my two cents, but I don't think it makes sense to the dog to put them back in where they missed. Of course, there are exceptions to that, but I think that it makes more sense for the dog to learn to get back in and do all 12, than it is to get back in at the end where they missed (which can be different spots). I'm not sure if they understand "you have to do the end" as opposed to "sorry, you have to do the whole thing".

Not sure if I explained that very well!

 

[Toffee's Mom]

Irene, this is just my two cents, but I don't think it makes sense to the dog to put them back in where they missed. Of course, there are exceptions to that, but I think that it makes more sense for the dog to learn to get back in and do all 12, than it is to get back in at the end where they missed (which can be different spots). I'm not sure if they understand "you have to do the end" as opposed to "sorry, you have to do the whole thing".

Not sure if I explained that very well!

Thanks, I will also ask my instructor what she thinks! You're probably right but normally I get him to do the weaves again at the beginning. But sometimes when he just doesn't focus on the last one, and I have already send him through a second time.. I make him do the entry he has missed and THEN go back and start him again, that always works and he doesn't pop out. I think, due to having trained the 2x2 method it's a reminder not to pop out, notice whats ahead and drive forward. (In MY head anyhow, lolllll)