MDR1 Mutant/Normal-going with Advantage Multi

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Well, after talking with our vet I "think" I will give Casey Advantage Multi for his Heartworm meds. He is MDR1 Mutant/Normal so I am worried sick about giving this. I know everything I've read, and my vet assures me at a normal level it will be ok but still I am going to have a very bad few days worrying.

Kim
 
If you are really worried why don't you get the annual heartworm injection? Most dogs over here get the injection (heartworm is pretty rife so it was first introduced here). Deska never has a problem with his and it means I can give him flea/tick treatment without adding in more chemicals for heartworm.
 
If you are really worried why don't you get the annual heartworm injection? Most dogs over here get the injection (heartworm is pretty rife so it was first introduced here). Deska never has a problem with his and it means I can give him flea/tick treatment without adding in more chemicals for heartworm.

This was pulled from the market over here years ago. Is there a newer version available?
 
This was pulled from the market over here years ago. Is there a newer version available?

I think I read some where that a lot of dog fell ill and/or died from it. But it was a few months ago that I read this so I don't remember if it was the same thing and I can't find the website I found it on. But if it is the same, that's probably the reason it's not on the market where you live.:(
 
This was pulled from the market over here years ago. Is there a newer version available?


Don't know, it could be a newer version. Regulation of drugs and foods is pretty tight over here. I know they introduced and trialled it in Australia first (I heard a talk about it last year). Of all the hundreds of dogs I know none have had a problem greater than feeling a bit nauseous. It is recommended here for 'Collie' breeds as it is safer than the invermectin.
 
Injectable heartworm preventative- aka Proheart is moxidectin.

Advantage multi is moxidectin plus imidacloprid(flea preventative)

From the WSU MDR1 website problems drugs:

Selamectin, milbemycin, and moxidectin (antaparasitic agents). Similar to ivermectin, these drugs are safe in dogs with the mutation if used for heartworm prevention at the manufacturer's recommended dose. Higher doses (generally 10-20 times higher than the heartworm prevention dose) have been documented to cause neurological toxicity in dogs with the MDR1 mutation.

This is same for Ivermectin.

Ivermectin (antiparasitic agent). While the dose of ivermectin used to prevent heartworm infection is SAFE in dogs with the mutation (6 micrograms per kilogram), higher doses, such as those used for treating mange (300-600 micrograms per kilogram) will cause neurological toxicity in dogs that are homozygous for the MDR1 mutation (mutant/mutant) and can cause toxicity in dogs that are heterozygous for the mutation (mutant/normal).

See the full list here:http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/depts-vcpl/drugs.aspx

So if you are using proper package low dose preventative of any heartworm drug, it is considered safe in MDR1 mutant/normal or mutant/mutant even ivermectin. If you are formulating your own preventative using cattle or swine products there is a great chance of overdose and this is when any of the above products are problematic. Of course ivermectin usage at high doses of mange and other parasites should be avoided. So go with whatever product you feel comfortable with, it doesn't matter at low doses.

The whole annual injectable moxidectin over a 1 month topical application makes no sense to me. If I was worried about a product why would I inject enough to release over a year and have no way to get rid of it?
 
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