Our runs from this weekend

[corbinam]

Kai used to do that at the weaves... Along with a bark down. Do you normally train somewhere much tighter than the trial? Some dogs have trouble figuring out how to collect and hit them when they are able to get going that much faster.

Lexi was bad about this for awhile, too (she's still learning!) I think it's a question of them not wanting to slow down for the entry (or slowing down, period!) and so they either try it and miss and then express their displeasure, or they don't even try just run past it barking.

I think it will come with time as he learns his job

 

[Justicemom]

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As for my weaves, that's the way I was taught. I was taught to let him find his entry rather than being on top of the poles. Now if I don't catch up to him by halfway through he could look back for me and accidentally pop out, so I run up to him. Letting him find his entry on his own also helps so that I can cross behind the poles without him freaking out.

Thats what I was taught with Diva. Actually if I don't let her find the entry and get too close I tend to drive her right out of the poles. Then I get yelled at by Diva and the rest of the run is shot. LOL

 

[corbinam]

Thats what I was taught with Diva. Actually if I don't let her find the entry and get too close I tend to drive her right out of the poles. Then I get yelled at by Diva and the rest of the run is shot. LOL

I wonder if with Diva (and Trax and Starr) if you guys could get ahead rather than stopping and waiting for them to enter? That way you aren't crowding the entry, and you also aren't stopped waiting (and then behind). Just a thought.

(And Heather, I notice you didn't do it in T2B, so I think maybe I just saw it in a couple runs)

 

[3Stars]

I wonder if with Diva (and Trax and Starr) if you guys could get ahead rather than stopping and waiting for them to enter? That way you aren't crowding the entry, and you also aren't stopped waiting (and then behind). Just a thought.

Moving ahead of him causes him to increase his speed, which means he'll be more likely to pop out. Deceleration is a cue for him that he's about to make a change in direction, which is essentially what weaves are - multiple changes in direction. We also train on wood shavings most of the time, which has a lot more give and requires more power than turf/matting/grass, so if he approaches weaves on turn at the same speed/power he approaches weaves on shavings, he'll definitely pop out. I need to spend more time working him on grass - no one around here has appropriate matting or turn, so that's out.

I don't stop completely - I usually put my hand out to signal to decelerate when we're about 10 feet from the weaves, and I keep some distance between myself and the weaves to take the pressure off of him. I don't see it as a problem, and it doesn't slow me down - the distance allows me to set up for the next obstacle. The way to solve this would be for him to learn to decelerate on his own (which he may eventually do), but either way he has to decelerate so I don't think it will make a real difference in our times.

I'm wondering if this has something to do with the size and speed of the dogs. Starr's 16.25", fast, with a very long stride. When I was looking at the videos originally, I was thinking how similar Trax and Starr are.

I'll start a separate thread with a video of his weaves (so we don't get off track on this thread).

 

[helps]

Pretty great dog!

 

[ortegah]

Oh I've sparked quite the discussion

Yes driving to the poles ends up making him pop out and/or making him hurt himself hitting into the poles. Also keep in mind that the flooring at that site is VERY slippery because the venue owner refuses to replace the flooring. So I play it safe on that field to keep my guy from being injured.

And I don't need to rush the poles. If I run past him while he's in the poles he speeds up and races me for the finish