Speaking of serps

Serps

SheltieChe said:
Recent Justicemom video explanations made me realize how many ways people can teach serps handling... what is yours?
here is our beginning and it is the same when jumps are straight- run for you life Pull and push:biggrin2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF3cd_zL2uY
here is agilitynerd article on variations
http://agilitynerd.com/blog/agility/handling/SerpentineHandling.html
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Nice job.Happy to see you didnt have airplane arms but to me it looked like you didn't cue anything?
 
I cued tunnel :biggrin2:
actually my motion cues everything else
ST teaching - serp is just another form of straight line:lol:
What are your handling on the serps? Would love to see clip if possible.
 
Very nice! I honestly don't remember how my instructor taught serps, but we had them in our class this week.

I like the way your dog jumps. He didn't take huge jumps, so he was able to that serp very fast.
 
Those were nice! To me it looks like what you're teaching is that the dog learns to identify the pattern. Start with it in a straight line where the dog doesn't have a choice, then space them out so there is more push/pull, but the dog already knows the pattern.

We taught it similarly. The only thing I will say is the unfortunate part about that is we always seem to run into gambles where the dog ISN'T supposed to serp (but to layer or bypass a jump) and our dogs always come in :) Can't be mad at them, it's what we taught! :lol:
 
Thanks! Tried today to do blinds like Steve shows on his tape, I can put one it but hopelessly late to do second. I also do not use opposite arm for the middle jump as I believe there is no collection there, just even strides. I wonder how peeps with GD system teaching?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKBGyTwgEOE
Corbinam, I think I know what you saying, my default behavior goal ¨Run forward on your doggy path unless told otherwise¨:lol:
I have this issue with tunnels when you need to get different entry than obvious, I have talked to Silvia and she reminded me that it is all about recall to hand being strong. My threadles have been miserable because of it.
Have been thinking of taking foundations with Justine Davenport, she is fantabulous handler and teaching great threadles and I am sucker for foundation classes:biggrin2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgI5Z2l6qF4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUSWwKdyXa2MZVN7XUcdX6qg
 
I am a blind cross runner.....that would be the most natural for me in serpentines. If I can make one, I know that is what I default to. If not, I tend to stay on the given side.

I tend not to front cross my serpentines, I always seem to slow my dogs when I do them....probably something I am doing wrong. A mental block in my messed up head I am sure! :lol:
 
I think to get the second blind, you need to be further down wind sooner.
Silvia's method is how I'm training my young dogs to do serpentines. I think it teaches them to waste less yardage. I am going back and retraining Ember's serpentines using her method as I'm unhappy with her performance at them currently.
 
HopeShelties said:
I think to get the second blind, you need to be further down wind sooner.
Silvia's method is how I'm training my young dogs to do serpentines. I think it teaches them to waste less yardage. I am going back and retraining Ember's serpentines using her method as I'm unhappy with her performance at them currently.
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Made it!:biggrin2:
One direction only, still need to improve coordination on other side
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jhe5298N8E
 
It all depends on where you're going after the serpentine. Sometimes you need to front cross or rear cross to get to the next location, especially in USDAA where they love to send you off into some weird direction after a serpentine. Trax knows how to run it with me on both sides plus with fronts and rears. I tend to not blind cross if I can help it, unless the situation insists on a blind. I'll see if I can find some courses in which he ran a serpentine.
 
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