THE AKC CONFUSES ME!!!! help?

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cweezy928

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So i was curious so i went to the AKC web site...... and now im CONFUSED!!!!! it says The AKC permits thirty-seven (37) dogs of each breed to be assigned the same name. So if 37 people name there dog lets just say Jack, I wouldnt be able to name my dog Jack?

The fees confuse me in general.

what is the PAL/ILP? do they work with the AKC and would I have to register my future dog with them to if i registerd with the AKC.


My dad registerd my sheltie who past a few weeks ago so I have no clue how it all works and my web browser is being really screwy so it doesnt want to load a good chunk of the pages. if someone could just explain to me why there are so many rules and restrictions and what the differances between the AKC PAL and ILP are that would help me out so much!

why does my curiosity get me into these situations where i get confused about what im looking into:confused2:
 
Some juniors my daughter knows have used PAL/ILN. They are alternate listings for dogs that cannot be registered normally with the AKC. If your puppy can be registered with the AKC you would want to do that. Dogs with a regular registration can be shown in conformation events (dog shows).

PAL/ILN allows dogs that cannot be registered any other way to compete in other areas, such as obedience trials, rally, and agility trials.

But dogs registered with PAL/ILN HAVE to be spayed or neutered.

Your best bet would be to go with the full AKC registration if possible. If you are having computer problems you might want to try the computers at your library.

hope this helps...
 
Lynne said:
Some juniors my daughter knows have used PAL/ILN. They are alternate listings for dogs that cannot be registered normally with the AKC. If your puppy can be registered with the AKC you would want to do that. Dogs with a regular registration can be shown in conformation events (dog shows).

PAL/ILN allows dogs that cannot be registered any other way to compete in other areas, such as obedience trials, rally, and agility trials.

But dogs registered with PAL/ILN HAVE to be spayed or neutered.

Your best bet would be to go with the full AKC registration if possible. If you are having computer problems you might want to try the computers at your library.

hope this helps...
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thanks. like 30 mintues after i posted the thread i reset my browser and everything is working now!!!!!!!!!!!
 
37 names: If you choose a name that has already been registered, they will append a roman numeral to the end of it. So if you choose "Jack" and 24 other people have chosen "Jack" then you will get "Jack XXV" (or whatever the correct numeral is). It's a database thing, it's easier to have unique names.

The fees are listed on whatever form you are filling out for whatever function you are trying to do.

ILP/PAL is a listing for purebred, otherwise unregisterable dogs. It is not a registration, it is a listing that allows those dogs to compete in performance/companion events and Juniors. The mixed breed program is the same kind of listing. ILP is the old system, the numbers start with 1-, so ILP1xxxxx. PAL started last year, and the numbers start with 2, so PAL2xxxxx. They are fundamentally the same thing.

There are more rule books than you want to know about. :)
 
ClantyreSheltie said:
There are more rule books than you want to know about. :)
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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CLEARING THE NAMES AND THE PAL THING UP FOR ME!!! You are a BOSS! And thats all there is to say about that. So when i do get a sheltie of my own i should register him or her with the AKC? i know they allow dogs to compete in shows and competions but what else is the AKC for besides keep track of how many dogs are registerd? are dogs more important if they are?
 
AKC registration is dependent on the litter being registered by the breeder. AKC then sends individual papers for all the puppies. Those papers are blank, but for the litter number and information. When you buy a puppy, you should get that paper to fill out and send to the AKC.

So here is the fun part. AKC numbers all have a two character prefix, depending on what group the dog is in (herding, terrier, etc.) Currently the herding group is on DN. The next five numbers are the litter number, which are handed out sequentially. The last two numbers are the puppy numbers in that litter. My Collie is DN12687710, this means she was the tenth born in the litter. :smile2: There were 11 living.

So having an AKC registered dog has not a thing to do with quality. All AKC does is provide registry services and provide the backbone for shows/trials. But yes, if you want to do fun things like agility and obedience and herding, an AKC registered dog is a good thing to have.
 
ClantyreSheltie said:
But yes, if you want to do fun things like agility and obedience and herding, an AKC registered dog is a good thing to have.
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I'm going to clarify this statement just a little...

If you want to do AKC sponsored agility, obedience/rally, herding, etc. events then your dog will have to be registered or have an ILP/PAL.

The "AKC sponsored" is an important clarification because there are other venues who offer agility, obedience/rally, etc. where AKC registration is not required. Leaving off the "AKC sponsored" qualifier makes it sound like every dog performance event requires AKC registration and that isn't true.

Sorry if that sounds like it is nit-picky but if we are going to share information, we should try to be as accurate as possible.


cweezy928, if you are working with a breeder, they should also be able to help you navigate the confusing world of AKC. The breeder should have the pup's litter registered already. If that's the case, you won't need to worry about the ILP/PAL numbers since they will have an AKC registration.
 
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I support AKC, and have registered everyone except Annie. I think of AKC as our big lobbying group. They have done much not only to further purebred dogs, but have encouraged sensible and humane canine treatment as well.
 
Thank you everyone for giving me more insight into the AKC i dont plan on buying a puppy any time soon, maybe early next year though im hoping to be able to support an animal of my own. My last sheltie Harley who past away a few weeks ago was registerd but i never had him compete in anything, he did flyball and agility for fun at dog day care that had fields set up for them that owners could bring their pets to but nothing competitive, im pretty sure thats how it would be with my next puppy but its good to know that if he or she was registerd that he or she coud compete
 
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