What size crate?

Mark M.

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So, despite never being crate trained, my adult male sheltie takes to it quite well. We had an emergency last weekend which necessitated me borrowing a crate and taking him to my office for several days (he and I lived there full time for a bit).

Murphy took to the crate just fine. I tried to let him out for at least a few minutes every two hours (or more), but he had to stay in the crate most of the day during business hours. During that time, he'd get a walk or two and someone would let him out a bit to run around the basement. In the evenings, I kept him crated some, but let him roam the building a fair bit.

He was fine in the crate. Extremely well behaved. Actually, he seemed more nervous out of it. Based on this, I want to buy a crate of our own and crate train him a bit. We probably won't use it regularly, very rarely in the house. Murphy is very well behaved around us. He normally sleeps in out bedroom, and, when we're gone for a long period, we generally just confine him to the ground floor of the house and he sleeps until we come back.

Generally, I want to get him used to the crate for:

-- when we have company over. Murphy has a tendency to be a little disruptive when strange people are in the house. He gets over-excited and yaps a lot. He's very friendly, so it's sort of cute, but also a little annoying.

-- emergencies. I've been worried about how he would respond if we ever had to vacate the house and take him somewhere. He was fine this week, but I want him to get used to the crate so we can take him to neighbors or ? in the event of an emergency (prolonged power outage or ac/furnace problem, mostly)

-- trips to the vet. I would never board him in a kennel while we're gone (he either comes with us, or we get neighbors to house sit), but I want him to get used to a crate in case he would ever have to spend a night or more at the vet and would be put in a crate for an extended period of time.

So I've never bought a crate. I know a little bit. What do I need to consider before I buy one. My main question is what size is best for him. He's about 27 pounds, 26"/27" from the base of the tail to the tip of his nose, and about 18" tall (these are estimates, but they're close).

The cage I borrowed for him is 42" deep (length) x 26" wide x "30 high. That seemed to be quite a bit larger than he needs (the person I borrowed it from owns a much larger dog) and was kinda unwieldy to tote. On the other hand, I don't want to get something too small and cramp him.

I'm thinking 36", maybe 30". Is that about right?

Thanks. I've never considered a crate before, so I really don't know a whole lot about them.
 
I have 30 in crates in the car and 36 in crates at home for them during the day. They have plenty of room in the 36.
 
36" is more than ample, 2 of mine can fit perfectly fine with room to spare....not that I crate together but there have been times when I'll put them in and one will decide they want to room with another...ofcourse they get kicked back out of their visting crate and into their own...
 
36" is what I'm probably going to get, but would a 30" be better? I don't want to crowd him, but I'm wondering if he wouldn't feel safer in a smaller crate,
 
I also have 30 for the car and 36 for home. 30 are easier to transport as they fit through the passenger doors of my Acadia and I think should we ever get in an accident the dog would be better off in a smaller space. They are also easier to move into hotel rooms at shows. For home they do have more room in the bigger crates.
 
I use 30" crates for my dogs, and I wouldn't go any smaller than that. They are both right around 16" tall. I tried to go to the next smallest for the car (24") and it was way too small. Their ears stuck through the top and they looked like they couldn't comfortably lay down.

I use the 36" crate for agility and they both use it.
 
At home Missy has a 36" crate. I chose this size before I even got her because that's the size my parents have for their sheltie, border collie, and bc/aussie mix. It's a good size, and she has more than enough space. She's only 6 months old, 18 lbs and I have no idea how tall.. probably close to 15".
 
I have an oversize sheltie and I use 30" for him which is more than enough. Mozart need to lower his head a bit if he stands up or sit upright in his crate since he is 19.5" in height but he has a lot of room to move around and turn in a 30" crate. The crate is like a baby's security blanket to Mozart. He would go and hide in it whenever he feels unsafe or didn't want to be disturbed. The crate fits nicely into the back of our full size suv.
 
Koji has two crates also. From base of tail to nose when lying on his side he's 33" long and almost 18" at the withers.

The car one is a plastic vari-kennel. Here's the size of that one: 28" length x 20.5" wide x 21.5" high. For Koji, it's too small. A 30" one would have been perfect, but the next size up is 36" His head is always down (can't life it), and although he can turn around in it, he has to lie in a small ball to get comfy. Most times, I won't use it for more than a 2 hour drive. If the drive is longer, I try to stop and let him stretch out.

http://sheltieforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2840&d=1296160309

That's Koji in his 36" soft crate. Yes it's big (it's also taller/wider than normal crates, so that adds to the giantness of it. But it's still 36" long.

If you can, I would take the dog to the store and try out (not buy) a 30" and 36" and see what looks better. Some dogs do need the tightness of it to feel secure. Others, may like the openess. I got the big one so Koji could stretch out at agility trials. I tried a 30" soft sided crate and OMG, it was sooo tiny for Koji. The only position for him to lie in would have been a ball.

Good luck!
 
For the purposes you've described 36" seems a little cumbersome. I would go with 30".

I use a 36" soft-sided crate to transport my TWO dogs to the island in the boat. They both squeeze in fine, and its only for 10 minutes or so.

Bacca who is 18" and 30 lbs slept in a 30" soft-sided until he was about 18 months (and already that size) It was fine for him.

The difference between 30 and 36 is pretty huge - especially with dealing with car travel. If you don't have an SUV or Van, the 36 might not even be possible.

I would also recommend that you consider a soft-sided crate. Because your usage is mainly for short term stays, you will find the soft-sided much more transportable and light weight.

I know that many people can't use the soft-sided if their dogs are Houdini's but it sounds like your pup would be mostly supervised while crated.

My tuppence worth.
 
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