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No, but they'll take anybody's $50, won't they? So I could take Smudge (he's neutered - I'm only using it as an example) and Fluffy (again - she's getting spayed example only).

I breed Smudge and Fluffy, I pay $50. Correct? It's a terrible contradiction to say to test your dogs, buy from good breeding stock, ect. and then allow people who don't do these things to advertise their litter.

$50 is nothing to somebody who sells their dogs for $250 a pop without testing, ect.

 

Thanks for clarifying "my mandate".

 

So the answer to the question was that anybody that gives $50 can post a litter?

 

I couldn't quote it because it's locked, but I copied and pasted from the rules of posting in the Breeder Litter Announcements:

How do I place an ad?
Click on the paypal button below to pay for your ad. You may purchase multiple "littler announcements" of the same type but you must process a separate transaction for each.


This is the problem I have. I'm having a terrible time understanding what all the hub bub is about making a list when multiple litters are suggested on the posting rules. Please explain why it's suggested to place multiple litter announcement transactions, but then we should all contribute to a list?

We've already got shetland sheepdogs on the forums that look like smooth collies because they've been bred every time they are in heat (or every other time). Don't believe me - go to the Breeder Announcement List and look at the start dates for the threads. We've got people posting three litters in less than a year with the same dogs, and it's ok because they've paid $40 each time.

Am I missing something?

I understand from a business point of view. Somebody posts a litter, people are drawn to the site because puppies are cute. Some people decide to become premium members because they like the forum. Others may decide to splurge for the premium account because they've purchased a dog from somebody's listing. So what starts as a $40 or $50 purchase quickly turns into more premium memberships at $25 each.

From an ethical point of view I just don't understand. Why should somebody like me (who has a puppy mill dog napping in his crate) be excited about contributing to a list when you are promoting the same type of behavior that caused me heartache?

 

The answer is simple. If its something that you don't agree with, despite a number of forum members explaining it to you from various angles, then don't take part in the list or read the threads in that part of the forum.

I understand what you're saying, but I think that more good will come out of the list than bad, and I also think that its beyond the scope of the forums to monitor breeders the way some of us would like it to.

I also don't think that the many reputable breeders like Janet, who post to the Litter Announcements forums should be punished by removing the forum, because of a few that may have used breeding practices that some of us don't agree with.

 

Barb, this may be a bit of an editorial suggestion -- I think it is important to stress the responsibility of buyers in limiting the success and proliferation of irresponsible breeders. If there isn't a market for their product, they will fade away. Educated and responsible puppy buyers are a very important weapon in discouraging inhumane breeding practices.