AKC Invitational

Awesome!! Doesn't it seem strange that a BC nor a sheltie won plus a mutt won also.I personally do not think that AKC should allow a mutt to run in the Invatational as it is suppose to be the top five dogs of each breed.

Yeah... But it's still the top 5 mixes overall, not like the top Sheltie mix, and the top retriever mix, and the top...
 
AKC Invatationals

Yeah... But it's still the top 5 mixes overall, not like the top Sheltie mix, and the top retriever mix, and the top...

I know that but my point it is suppose to be for pure breds and I also think the same for the AKC Nationals they should not be allowed but this os JMO.:biggrin2:
 
Awesome!! Doesn't it seem strange that a BC nor a sheltie won plus a mutt won also.I personally do not think that AKC should allow a mutt to run in the Invatational as it is suppose to be the top five dogs of each breed.

I suspect I'll get some flak for saying, but I don't think of the Invitational as a true reflection of the best dogs competing. Instead it is a show case side-show to the conformation event. For many of the not so popular agility breeds the 5 "top" dogs invited may possibly be the best 5 in that breed. But for any popular agility breed (read as highly competitive), such as bc's and shelties & a number of others, then the rules by which invitations are determined strongly favor those with very deep pockets and an availability of time to be competing all the time in order to garner the points.

It is a nice show to see the diversity & good for those to have their day, but the standard of competition is far higher at our local trials than it is at the Invitational.
 
AKC Invatationals

I suspect I'll get some flak for saying, but I don't think of the Invitational as a true reflection of the best dogs competing. Instead it is a show case side-show to the conformation event. For many of the not so popular agility breeds the 5 "top" dogs invited may possibly be the best 5 in that breed. But for any popular agility breed (read as highly competitive), such as bc's and shelties & a number of others, then the rules by which invitations are determined strongly favor those with very deep pockets and an availability of time to be competing all the time in order to garner the points.

It is a nice show to see the diversity & good for those to have their day, but the standard of competition is far higher at our local trials than it is at the Invitational.

I actually agree with you and it was nice to see the diversity of them all.I know New England had 7 different breeds that were 1st and also al the Whippets in the top 5 were from New England.
 
How cool. Just checked out the results. A woman in my club got 3rd overall and won her breed. Very cool!

And another beat out a sheltie to win the JWW on saturday. I'm conflicted. Yay to her, bummer the sheltie got 2nd. I love watching this woman run with her chinese crested. She makes it look so effortless.
 
I suspect I'll get some flak for saying, but I don't think of the Invitational as a true reflection of the best dogs competing. Instead it is a show case side-show to the conformation event. For many of the not so popular agility breeds the 5 "top" dogs invited may possibly be the best 5 in that breed. But for any popular agility breed (read as highly competitive), such as bc's and shelties & a number of others, then the rules by which invitations are determined strongly favor those with very deep pockets and an availability of time to be competing all the time in order to garner the points.

It is a nice show to see the diversity & good for those to have their day, but the standard of competition is far higher at our local trials than it is at the Invitational.

I agree 100%. I think if they wanted to get the top 5 of each breed they'd use a different formula. Perhaps the highest percentage of placements/Q or QQ , not necessarily the number of Q's or QQ's in a time period.
 
I agree 100%. I think if they wanted to get the top 5 of each breed they'd use a different formula. Perhaps the highest percentage of placements/Q or QQ , not necessarily the number of Q's or QQ's in a time period.

Yep something like that would likely mean a different set of dogs being invited than is currently, or at the very least if the same dogs were to be invited it would be from a larger pool of potential dogs given a more equal opportunity.
This I think is a significant point for inviting a diverse group of dogs that most wouldn't otherwise be found at a "National" event.
Many dogs that show up at this event, just happen to be there because there are so few of that breed. Good for them: not taking that away from them as not all dogs are as tuned in to agility as others so it also recognizes the handlers training.
But for those breeds, even with this alternative forumula the likely invitees would be the same.

One last point on this is I think there may be some motivation to encourage teams to appear to be successful that don't typically find themselves on the winners podium. I think the diversity of winners, and each of them *are* deserving to be winners or finalists helps promote the sport to as wide a population base as possible and thus may encourage participation in local trials by the general public and not just herding breed owners.
I think that may be similar to only qualifying a single dog from Best of Breed in the conformation final.

I think within that context the event does have its place. Sure do miss it now its not in Long Beach, CA.
 
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