SheltieChe
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In herding I use away and come by, which are counter and clockwise move. Am not sure what behaviors will be asked for away and around.
"away" and "around"???
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In agility "Around" can be used as a verbal if you want to train your dog to take the back-side of a jump.
This is often required on international style courses which seem to have lots of them.
Recently, back-side of jumps have been creeping into AKC courses, e.g. Dan Butcher has incorporated a back-side jump in several of his recent courses.
You are more likely to find back-side jumps in USDAA.
If you haven't trained an "Around" for back-side jumps and face one for the first time then you might want to try using your motion to help your dog, and with just one of these you should be able to pull it off, but in more complex international style courses you would quickly realize you *need* a verbal trained cue in those venues.
This is often required on international style courses which seem to have lots of them.
Recently, back-side of jumps have been creeping into AKC courses, e.g. Dan Butcher has incorporated a back-side jump in several of his recent courses.
You are more likely to find back-side jumps in USDAA.
If you haven't trained an "Around" for back-side jumps and face one for the first time then you might want to try using your motion to help your dog, and with just one of these you should be able to pull it off, but in more complex international style courses you would quickly realize you *need* a verbal trained cue in those venues.
Away and Around
I have never had any experience with Bridget before.I have heard of her.
I have never had any experience with Bridget before.I have heard of her.
corbinam
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I use the word "out" for this.
I wonder, though, if this would be necessary for an intro level class?
I think that's the issue with all the personalised commands you can never be sure just by listening to the words what the dog is meant to do.
For example I use plain old left and right for turns with my girls but some people in my classes use come and back for exactly the same things.
Away and Around could mean any number of things, I don't use away but if I did I'd probably use it instead of "Out" which I use particularly when running a different line to my dog layering one or two jumps between us and moving away from the dog to keep the dog out and away from me it's different to "Go" which is the run parallel to my shoulder line and take whatever is in front of you.
"Around" however you've got me stumped on too many possible ideas, it could be the beginnings of tight turns around wings or it could be taking the other side of a jump...
For example I use plain old left and right for turns with my girls but some people in my classes use come and back for exactly the same things.
Away and Around could mean any number of things, I don't use away but if I did I'd probably use it instead of "Out" which I use particularly when running a different line to my dog layering one or two jumps between us and moving away from the dog to keep the dog out and away from me it's different to "Go" which is the run parallel to my shoulder line and take whatever is in front of you.
"Around" however you've got me stumped on too many possible ideas, it could be the beginnings of tight turns around wings or it could be taking the other side of a jump...
This is only my 4th class so I haven't learned a lot of the terms and turns. But, I think "away" is the same as "out". She said to toss a toy and as your dog is running toward it say "away". Then what confused me is she said have your dog go away from you but say "around" and lure them around an object like a chair. So I'm not sure if I'm supposed to teach "away" and use "around" when I want my dog to come back but, that just doesn't make sense. I do know it's not a 180 turn. It's going around an object.
Anyway I'm interested in using cheese balls because Finley isn't interested in tennis balls, Frisbee or fetch.
I looked a little on Youtube but didn't find much. Probably because I was using "away" and "around" when most people use other terms. I'll look for the Zak videos though.
Anyway I'm interested in using cheese balls because Finley isn't interested in tennis balls, Frisbee or fetch.
I looked a little on Youtube but didn't find much. Probably because I was using "away" and "around" when most people use other terms. I'll look for the Zak videos though.
Away and Around
It is very easy to teach.When I taught my dog to run the basbeball diamond I thought it was going to be hard.It took a solid week to teach him and Now I have really great distant on both my dogs.Good Luck!!Finley will be a pro at it!!!
It is very easy to teach.When I taught my dog to run the basbeball diamond I thought it was going to be hard.It took a solid week to teach him and Now I have really great distant on both my dogs.Good Luck!!Finley will be a pro at it!!!
SheltieChe
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I don't know what is your experience in agility world and if it is your first dog etc. Intro level classes are fast becoming my pet peeve because it should be about basic foundations such as One Dumb Jump exercises and fluency with every piece of equipment, and under fluency I mean dog REALLY wants to do that jump, or frame, or teeter. Club we train at repeatedly teaches beginners rear crosses and I repeatedly bang my head on the wall trying to explain that teaching RC without being able to have good send is stupid and ineffective...
There are several good DVD's on foundations. I like Mary Ellen Barry " Agility foundations" for various skills she teaches BEFORE anyone attempts agility. And "Success with one jump" by Susan Garrett is one I return to watch over and over again.
HopeShelties
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I have done a lot of back side of jumps in training, but don't train a verbal for it. It has always been strictly done based on my motion.