Car Chaser

Laddie's Mom

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Well, from the looks of it, going to school with Laddie is out, none seem to want folks that live far away, darn!!!!!

So, I have a question, Laddie is turning into a car chaser. He is always on his leash when we walk, etc, but when a car or even people walk by, he lunges forward very hard and tries to chase the car or bike. He did not do this at first, but now, it is getting worse.

Any ideas will be helpful, I am not use to this.
 
Use a VERY high reward with this. If you see the car/bike/person coming take out a hand full of treats, put them in your fist, and let him 'dig' them out with his toung. Start giving them to him while you can still capture his full attention. With my dogs, what really makes them focus on me (or at least my hands) it chopped up cheddar cheese and ham mixed with their favorite chewy dog treats. Gets 'em every time.:cool:
 
Lunging at moving things is a normal behaviour for herding breeds - they get very excited by movement. Deska is a very bad 'car/bike herder' and I can tell you that he is impossible to cure.

But if it's just the excitement of movement that he is getting riled up about that should be easier to deal with.

If you are planning on treating to distract I would only use that approach for a short period. If it doesn't work then stop. Also, you need to be really precise with your timing and don't treat him if his ears are pointing towards the sound of the car, he has to be 100% focused on you and calm. I used treats to redirect Deska and according to the behaviourist it was the worst thing I could have done. Deska is highly food motivated and combining that with the adrenalin rush he already had when around cars tipped him over the edge.

The method I used with Tully worked really well and that was to redirect her attention onto another movement. Most of the time this was the ball (or actually a 'donut' ball), you could also use a tug toy and drag it around the ground, play 'get it' with a squeak toy, or just do a little run yourself. Whatever approach you use, the idea is to redirect that excitement, or what's called prey drive, into something involving you.
 
Honey has become reactive to cars and lunges and barks as well, although she's acting from a fear base more than a herding instinct and is trying to get away from them usually.

When I see one approach I step to the side with her, we go about three feet into the grass so we're well away from the road and the car, and I have her sit.

I take out a treat so she knows I have one and can focus on it. I make her sit until the car has passed and any tension is out of her body and than she gets the treat. All the while I keep her focusing on me and the treat and I talk calmly to her telling her she's a good girl.

The treat is usually turkey, because that's her biggest motivator, although yesterday I tried mozzerella cheese and she responded very well to that. In the beginning we had to have treats everytime time with every car, now I bring them every couple of weeks just as a reinforcer.

I don't know how much success you'll have with this if Laddie, (I believe?) doesn't know the sit, stay or a listen command at his name. Honey is also trained not to take food from my hand unless I give her either a verbal or physical sign that she's allowed (a flat hand means it's okay to eat, a slightly cupped hand means don't touch it even if I'm shoving it under her nose. (I am prouder of this trick than any other she knows!)) Honey didn't start her actions until she was almost two, and before that she was already trained to move to the side and sit whenever a car went past. (Although sometimes I wonder if that didn't start her paying a little to much attention to cars)


You'll see small amounts of progress at first, it's a very hard instict for them to control, keep calm while you work with them. If they aren't getting it, try finding a park that has a path farther away from the road, where you can still see and hear the cars but they aren't as close. Possibly try to find an area with a low speed limit as well, maybe a school zone? For honey the faster the car the more she reacts. Sometimes if I know she's going to react extremely strongly, (a very fast moving vehicle, or a large white one are both strong triggers for her) I will kneal down beside her and put my arm around her as an additional support. The restraining hand reminds her what I want and that I'm there. If I know there's no hope she'll manage by herself, either because she's just having a really bad day or she's overly excited from seeing critters or playing with her freinds I'll pick her up and hold her instead of making her try.

It's also possible that a completely different area will kind of bypass this section in their brain. If I bring Honey to a nearby historical district, which has a nice square and lots of little shops and is very busy with people as well as cars she has no reaction at all to the vehicles, even if we're walking across or right beside the road.

Good luck on your work with him, don't give up even if it seems impossible at first, Honey has been dealing with this since this winter. She still has bad days, but more and more of them are becoming good ones, it just takes lots of time and lots of work and loooootttts of patience.
 
When my dog started to become reactive to cars, I taught her the "watch me" command. After she understood watch me, I would use it when I saw a car approaching then feed her treats until the car passed. Eventually, she associated the car with looking at me and would look at me before I even said the command.

Now she rarely lunges at cars. Motorcycles and loud trucks still get her riled up, so I still treat her for those.
 
When my dog started to become reactive to cars, I taught her the "watch me" command. After she understood watch me, I would use it when I saw a car approaching then feed her treats until the car passed. Eventually, she associated the car with looking at me and would look at me before I even said the command.

Now she rarely lunges at cars. Motorcycles and loud trucks still get her riled up, so I still treat her for those.


I am trying to get chauncey to do the watch me, He knows the treat is in my hand and watches my hand, but when I take it to my face and say watch me he loses interest, not sure if the smell is too far away or what. Any advice on watch me would be appreciated.
 
I am trying to get chauncey to do the watch me, He knows the treat is in my hand and watches my hand, but when I take it to my face and say watch me he loses interest, not sure if the smell is too far away or what. Any advice on watch me would be appreciated.

Maybe letting him get a taste of what's in your hand before you put it to your face? That alway's works with my dogs.:yes:
 
Fillion's interest in cars kicked in at about 4 months. I took him to the shoulder of the fairly busy road and with high value treats, trained him not to react to cars in about 4 sessions. This only works for cars close by however! If he sees them off in the distance (100 yards) and he is off lead he still wants to herd them. Koko could care less. I'm hoping he will out grow this, I hate having to leash him up every time we get within sight of the road on our walks. :( However I would hate a sail Fillion even more!!
 
we were on a walk a few days ago, there were more cars than normal on this one road that we take, he kept getting crazier and crazier, and even started spinning, he then started to bark at them, I finally got him settled down, but wow, what a walk between that and pulling, I do not enjoy walking anymore. I guess when it is school holiday time, like it is now for the next two weeks, I will avoid certain areas, ugh.:no:
 
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