*cry* dont know what to do

you have been given good advice, i really can not add much to it, but about the furnature, maybe have a bed, rug next to the couch. and put Gizmo on that, with a treat. that way showing him, his spot, not just moving him off couch.
i wish you good luck with Gizmo and i hope it works out
 
I believe someone on the forum mentioned that bottled water helped to eliminate their sheltie's UTI infections.

My prayers go out to you, your family and Gizmo. Praying this new year coming will be a better one for all of you.
 
I'm not sure how old Gizmo is or how long you've had him, but this seems unusual and like there's something wrong with him medically. I urge you to get him checked again.

I also am not sure what your potty training routine is, but there is a lot of advice about potty training in other threads in this forum. Consistency and persistence is key with both potty training and other training, like with the car chasing and staying off the couch.
 
Definitely get Gizmo checked out by the vet. Make sure you fully explain what is going on with the difficulty house-training, peeing w/o notice, etc. All that info may help your vet make the best diagnostic and treatment decisions for your dog.

My last sheltie, Pavi, had bladder stones most of his life. Before we found out about them the first time, we'd spent months (close to a year) yelling at him about peeing in the house, cleaning up after him, wondering why he had decided to forget all about being house-trained. He was about 5yrs or so. At one point we noticed blood in his urine and immediately got him to the vet. He had a very mild bladder infection but his bladder was so full of stones that on the xray film it looks like one giant boulder. None of the vets at the practice had seen so many stones in one dog. Pavi had the stones surgically removed, and his peeing problem was light-years better.
 
take4roll10 said:
I would definitely get him tested again for a UTI. My dog had reoccurring UTI's and when she didn't have a UTI, she had low acidic urine. The only thing that has helped her is a vitamin C pill and a tiny pinch of d'mannose powder. The difference with her bladder was day and night. There were times where she couldn't hold it for more than 20 minutes.

Definitely talk to your vet. My vet even took an X-ray to make sure her urinary tract was normal and to look for bladder stones.

I would not allow your to dog to jump on the couch. My dog grew up being allowed on the couch, but when I got my own place, I didn't want her on the furniture. She very quickly learned she wasn't allowed on the couch anymore.

Good luck!
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I can't remember...how old is Gizmo?


I agree to get him tested for UTI or bladder infection or cyrstals again. It could be that the initial treatment did not eliminate it entirely. If a second round of treatment does not work we are down to a couple of things.

One could be a congenital issue. The vet could advise you about that more

Second, of course, is behavioural, once you've ruled out the medical.

- Jumping on the couch. Easy....you block the dog if you can with a loud No, or whatever word you use and with your body (not rough - just an arm to stop the jump up). If he escapes the block and gets up, then you put him back on the floor immediately. No nonsense. If he stays down, treat and reward.
- Peeing....best advice is back to puppy 101. Yes, that means restricted areas, probably back to crate training. Attaching the dog to a leash to you so that he can't sneak off and do his business when you turn your back. Make sure you take the dog out first thing in the morning, and within 5-10 minutes after eating and again after play. When dog pees/poops outside, then big rewards, praise and treats.
 
for those that asked, he will be 2 in Feb and we have had him since 6 months old. and this is how he has been since we got him. when i had him in for his UTI a few months ago, i tried to explain to the vet about his problems. and he kept thinking i was just talking about recently (at the time) and he just said that it all had to do with the UTI. i kept trying to say that no, this is how he has been since we got him. the only "explanation" he gave for it was that sometimes when a dog is not properly potty trained at a young enough age, then it can be impossible for them to get fully trained later on. something just doesnt "click" and they never get it, their whole lives. other then that the only advice he gave was taking him out and giving him treats when he goes. that was it. not really very helpful.
 
Not to be ugly but have you thought of getting a 2nd opinion from another vet? We had an afghan years ago that got a UTI. We took her to a vet & he tried over a month or longer using several different antibiotics to cure it. After $1000 & him wanting to start back on antibiotic #1 (that hadn't worked) we lost faith & talked to our friend who was an equine vet. He got a urine sample, had it cultured & found there were 2 different bacterias causing issues. He prescribed 2 antibiotics to be taken together & within 2 weeks she was fine.
Sometimes the vet can be fine but might miss something. If it isn't medical maybe there's an animal behaviorist in your area that can help with some of the issues.
 
snkoyle15 said:
the only "explanation" he gave for it was that sometimes when a dog is not properly potty trained at a young enough age, then it can be impossible for them to get fully trained later on. something just doesnt "click" and they never get it, their whole lives.
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I agree with everyone else, make sure you are not dealing with a medical problem.

I adopted one at age 4 who had never been house broken, she had been raised in a kennel. I did have a horrible time with it, and she was never 100%, but, eventually, we got to the point that she rarely had an accident. If she did, it was usually because I made a mistake.

With her, I really had to pay attention to HER schedule. I got so I new when she did what. When I took her out, I payed attention, what did she do and when did she do it. So, I knew that if she typically made a puddle around 6 am, if she did not, I had better take her out again shortly and not give her much freedom until I saw that puddle. I could never assume that because I had taken her out and she did nothing, she did not need to. But, once I knew her schedule, I knew when it was safe to give her freedom in the house and when it was not.

Good Luck
 
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Eagle's comments make sense to me. When Dolly became infirm I got a diaper that used a pad from Ebay. It was cute, we called it her nighty. It made life more pleasant. Perhaps this would help in the meantime?
 
A couple more ideas

(1) An x-pen. I used one with my pup. It allows them to move around more than in a crate. If you can't keep a good eye on him, or if he has not recently made a puddle outside, you could put him in the x-pen until you get things under better control.

(2) This does not sound like the case but ...

Years ago I had a dog that was housebroken except for one room, he kept going in there and having accidents. A trainer asked me if I used that room much, I did not. She explained to me that the dog probably did not consider it to be part of the home because I never spent time in there with him. So, every night, I made a point of spending time in that room with the dog .... end of the problem.

I hope some of this helps.
 
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