Foundation Skills & Drills

Actually, no! Or at least, not anytime soon! :winkgrin:

Just been trying to organize my thoughts on how Bentley & Lexi were trained, and what worked and what didn't, etc... for the potential pup in the future.

(I told you! It's that darned "How cute was your puppy" thread!) :gaah

having an actual puppy in the house- thanks for thinking ahead and posting:yes:
now I have something to refer to and to check off so I don't forget things to work on.

the only thing that I would do differently is not to start agility with two novice dogs. I wish that I had completed some more training with Cranberry before starting with Dixie. His skills suffered from splitting training times with two dogs.
 
I agree Romeosangiovese - Attention is a definite must and I've taught it to all my puppies irrespective of their potential 'career'. It's invaluable!

What is shadow handling?

PS Totally loving trick training Epic BTW:biggrin2: wish I'd taught tricks to the older dogs!
 
Great list!

I'd add to the agility part, jump grids. I've posted them somewhere on here before. They can be very low to the ground, but the grids help them be more aware of their back end, picking up and tucking their feet and also helping them learn their own stride and how and when to change it up.

Edited to add the links to the grids since I just found them:
http://www.hotpawsagility.com/practicecourses/grid1-10212008.JPG
http://www.hotpawsagility.com/practicecourses/grid12-2-08.jpg
http://www.hotpawsagility.com/practicecourses/grid2-10212008-complete.JPG
 
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Great list!

I'd add to the agility part, jump grids. I've posted them somewhere on here before. They can be very low to the ground, but the grids help them be more aware of their back end, picking up and tucking their feet and also helping them learn their own stride and how and when to change it up.

Edited to add the links to the grids since I just found them:
http://www.hotpawsagility.com/practicecourses/grid1-10212008.JPG
http://www.hotpawsagility.com/practicecourses/grid12-2-08.jpg
http://www.hotpawsagility.com/practicecourses/grid2-10212008-complete.JPG
I have very mixed feelings about teaching jumping grids. I have talked to people who have taught them extensively and swear by them and to people who never teach them and have just as beautiful jumping patterns. Training world is divided about it as well-Linda Mecklenburg does not teach them and essentially disagree with this type of training, neither is Silvia Trkman. Just last week SG who has done grids extensively with all her dogs announced that in future she will not be teaching them.
Another part is that it is quite complicated to set them up correctly and train it. Besides that you need to set distance according the the size of your dog, adjustments are made in 6¨ increments i.e. I have to see jumping pattern my dog made, evaluate and adjust it in tiny bits. I do not have and eye to actually SEE it unless I videotape and run it in slow mo, only then I can SEE and make my adjustments well. Of course I can see basic gist, like stumbling, dropping bar etc but to see nuances....I find it is an art.
Another problem I have observed that too many people think that putting together bunch of jumps in some pattern and running dog over is grid training... people run their dogs at full speed over ¨grids¨, people run with their dogs when exercise is to be done with stationary handler... too much misunderstanding of the purpose... I do not know how helpful they could be...
as for rear end awareness I would just as easily run over homemade cavaletti- jump bars placed over smashed coke cans , ladder or even like Silvia Trkman teaches take the drawers out of the cabinet, put them in a row and let your dog run...
 
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I have very mixed feelings about teaching jumping grids. I have talked to people who have taught them extensively and swear by them and to people who never teach them and have just as beautiful jumping patterns. Training world is divided about it as well-Linda Mecklenburg does not teach them and essentially disagree with this type of training, neither is Silvia Trkman. Just last week SG who has done grids extensively with all her dogs announced that in future she will not be teaching them.
Another part is that it is quite complicated to set them up correctly and train it. Besides that you need to set distance according the the size of your dog, adjustments are made in 6¨ increments i.e. I have to see jumping pattern my dog made, evaluate and adjust it in tiny bits. I do not have and eye to actually SEE it unless I videotape and run it in slow mo, only then I can SEE and make my adjustments well. Of course I can see basic gist, like stumbling, dropping bar etc but to see nuances....I find it is an art.
Another problem I have observed that too many people think that putting together bunch of jumps in some pattern and running dog over is grid training... people run their dogs at full speed over ¨grids¨, people run with their dogs when exercise is to be done with stationary handler... too much misunderstanding of the purpose... I do not know how helpful they could be...
as for rear end awareness I would just as easily run over homemade cavaletti- jump bars placed over smashed coke cans , ladder or even like Silvia Trkman teaches take the drawers out of the cabinet, put them in a row and let your dog run...

All I know is that it worked for us when we had serious bar knocking problems.

No offense, but I'm not into agility guru worship. I couldn't care less what Linda or Silvia and especially Susan Garrett are saying is the hot thing this second. Any moron that would pay $5000 to take a class has to have lost their mind. She must be an awesome brainwasher...

This is honestly why I'm sick of talking agility on this forum. This person asked about good foundation skills, not a debate on goofball agility superstars and their prefered method for the moment.
 
Forgive me if this has been mentioned already. I honestly haven't had time to read this entire thread from start to finish.

Perhaps one of the biggest issues I see with green dogs when they come into a foundation class, regardless of whether it's obedience, agility, etc., is focus skills and impulse control. These are the dogs that react to any activity going on around it. The reaction can be aggressive or a dog that thinks every dog is a potential playmate. (Neither is good.) It is perhaps the thing new handlers struggle with the most.

Training 'watch me' in all situations helps with focus.

One game we play in class to help dogs learn impulse control is called Cookie Zen. Level 1 of the game is holding a treat out to the dog in your palm. If the dog makes a move toward the cookie, you close your fist until the dog settles. Open your fist again and try to count to 3. If you get to 3, give them the cookie with verbal praise or 'click'. MOST dogs will get it pretty quickly. Slowly try to increase your count to 10.

Level 2 takes the game to the floor. Put the cookie on the floor in front of the dog. If they move toward it, cover it up. Repeat as above.

Level 3, put the treat on the dog's front paw.

Once the dog understands the game, you can use it with anything. For an agility dog, for example, the impulse control is the start line stay and the reward is running the course.

Over the years, I've found the handlers that take the time to really teach these skills are the ones who stick to the training and eventually compete. The ones that don't put the time in often give up because their dogs can't be trusted for the off leash exercises.


Ashley, this is probably a longer answer than you were looking for but I hope it's helpful.
 
Thank you everyone for the information! All answers--short and long--are appreciated!

I even appreciate helpful disagreements--we all train differently, as long as we keep things civil and on-topic.

Thanks again--and keep 'em coming as you think of anything!
 
Because I was gonna post it on R&J's website I added everyone's suggestions (I hope) and tidied up the list!

Life Skills


  • Sit
  • Down
  • Name game
  • Ok (release)
  • Wait
  • Stay
  • Come
  • Leave It
  • Give (toy)
  • Get it (toy)
  • Leash walking
  • Loose leash walking
  • Crate games
  • Socialization/New Environments (malls, parks, kids, water)
  • Attention / Focus
  • Watch me
  • Zen

More Agility-Specific Skills


  • Restrained recall
  • Targets
  • Handler/Obstacle Focus w/targets
  • Nose touch to hand
  • Nose touch to target
  • Inside & Outside Circles
  • Body awareness games/tricks
  • 2o2o on board/stairs
  • Cik/Cap
  • Value jump stanchions (C/T for going through/making choice)
  • Ball work (donut ball)
  • Go On
  • Out
  • Recall to Heel positions (bar on ground)
  • Tunnel
  • Boggle Board
  • Spinning L & R
  • Crosses on the flat
  • Common patterns (no bars) like 180s, serps, etc…
  • Straight lines—add angled jumps (no bars)
  • Running across a plank
  • Shadow handling
  • Susan Garrett's recaller games
  • Jump grids
 
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