Gentle Leader help

Happy wore a gentle leader- fit by a behavioral vet so it was done correctly. he never got out of it, he didn't like it - many times he would roll and paw at it but no success. He had lunged wearing his harness and would end up standing on his back legs- never had that happen with the GL. as soon as his head would come around, he'd be ready to continue walking.
 
food for the though
article problem with head halters by Susanne Clothier
http://flyingdogpress.com/content/view/54/97/

Some trainers like halters, others don't. Mine prefers to use them temporarily, then teaches people how to wean their dogs off of them. Ideally, it is a tool to be used and then eventually weaned off of, but some people are lazy and use it as a solution to their laziness. But for dogs with legitimate issues, there is no alternative but to use head halters indefinitely.

That being said, for reactive dogs they are a must IMO.

The situations most of us are talking about in this thread have nothing to do with not having a good relationship with our dogs and not having "a strong, mutually respectful relationship." We're dealing with dogs that are going out of their minds with anxiety. They're not what I"d call 'behavioral issues,' because they're not choosing to misbehave, they can't help their reactions.

Ideally I'd love it if I could wean Toby off of the GL eventually, but I don't think that's in the cards for him. I don't think he'll ever be totally cured of his reactiveness, I'm just going to have to learn to deal with his behavior and continue to desensitize him as much as possible. This may be the same reality for others who have posted in this thread.

And no, head halters may not be for every dog, which is true of most training techniques and equipment. People just need to try what works for them and their dogs. Toby happens to respond REALLY well to the GL, which actually calms him down.
 
Well, here's the video. Sorry about the poor quality. You can see Maia lunge and bark. She will be even worse on the street - she will lunge to the point of hanging herself sometimes.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adzkF29kjak

Oh thanks for that. I'm going to try that. Koji would kill himself too so that's why I didn't want to use it anymore. I was afraid he was going to snap his neck one day.

Just curious (sorry if this is answered later in this thread), why do you run your hand down the lead? I can assume, but I'd love to hear an answer from someone else to see if I understand or not.

Thanks!
 
Oh thanks for that. I'm going to try that. Koji would kill himself too so that's why I didn't want to use it anymore. I was afraid he was going to snap his neck one day.

Just curious (sorry if this is answered later in this thread), why do you run your hand down the lead? I can assume, but I'd love to hear an answer from someone else to see if I understand or not.

Thanks!

this exercise comes from horse riding, you are managing your leash, no tight leash allowed, here is explanation why
http://flyingdogpress.com/content/view/33/97/ go to handling on leash aggression article, I keep reading and rereading because this is behavioral basics right there in the article
Leo started showing same behavior since hitting 6 months old we have been doing tons of this training, we often go to our training facility and meet and greet dogs passing by as well as sit in on agility practices...
great video! If I may critique and it is only because I have been doing same mistakes, handler is too late in most instances... need to engage attention of the dog earlier, step further etc... for such situations auto check ins need to be practiced A LOT!!! I am not where I want to be yet, but am seeing the progress... takes while but if you are persistent it is well worth it.
There is great book out there "Feisty Fido", good read for such situations...
 
Do you know Susanne? She used to live by me, and I have trained under her.

Years and years ago..........

I always loved her GSDs.

I have been privigeged to train in the facility which has close ties to Susanne Clothier, Susanne is frequent visitor here and has been training our trainers, I also have been to some of her lectures and she is CaesarMillan/ Victoria Stillwell/ clairvoyant enrolled in one:lol: Very very gifted and perceptive person.
 
I have been privigeged to train in the facility which has close ties to Susanne Clothier, Susanne is frequent visitor here and has been training our trainers, I also have been to some of her lectures and she is CaesarMillan/ Victoria Stillwell/ clairvoyant enrolled in one:lol: Very very gifted and perceptive person.

If you ever see her again...she will know who I am :wink2: I am Pinky's (with the Irish Setters) daughter. Susanne and my Mom share a common close friend who does Search and Rescue with her springer spaniels.
 
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