How much would you pay to train?

dmeyer123 said:
We have some kind of a franchise going on around here. Don't know if you have it in other areas. It's called Bark Busters. They sign the dog owner up for about $795 and come to the home to train the dog. They say they will continue to come as long as you need them and for any training problems that might come up thru out the life of the dog.

It's a great racket, because the big surprise is that you actually have to work with your own dog. Most of the people who sign up and pay the $795 expect the trainer to train their dog. When they find out that dog training requires effort on their part, they give up and don't call the trainer back. I know of two people who used this service. They had about 3 lessons each and never called the trainer back.

Whoever invented this concept was a genious...for making money that is...preying on the need for instant gradifiction and laziness in this culture....:smile2:
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as much as this is well designed racket, I think idea behind it is excellent!
For one, it is very difficult to teach dog something new in the class- all one can manage is to help human figure out idea and mechanics behind new command or trick. I would not think of going to dog park and start teaching some new behavior there, I would not even do it in my living room with toys and chews laying around. When I am teaching new behavior/ trick I go in the bathroom/ calls Loo training:biggrin2:/ where distractions are next to none- I want to set my dog for success not for failure. Once we get it and need proofing then distractions come.
Another point and I think it is valid why pet owners are not so eager to run into training facilities- why do they care if in obedience ring dog behaves perfectly when they never going to take dog there. They have problems at their homes!!!! that is where training should be. And yeah, I fully will expect trainer to teach my dog and I think it is great idea because trainer has advantage of excellent mechanics and timing and evaluating response much quicker than inexperienced me.... very often First pattern you set with dog will stay with them for rest of their life so it might be critical. I think it is valid idea to teach puppy classes in everyone homes- each day of the week another puppy owner hosts entire class... brings whole set of other kind of troubles but it would be MUCH more effective for pet owners...
 
KarenCurtis said:
Ofcourse dogs are allowed near children, this is not illegal. Where I live, dogs are everywhere. We have dog parks, but also wooded areas where dogs are certainly allowed, children or no children.
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As for $1200 option for Recallers, it calls Inner Circle. It is for year long commitment. There is lots of perks that comes with it. Personal guidance from SG and LOH, seminars, challenges, videoclip reviews of your homework. Other classes like Puppy Peaks for which I would have signed anyway, were freebies for IC peeps. If you ask ANY of IC peeps, everyone will tell you "Best money I ever spent". Privates with SG are $200 per hour. Taking a weekend camp at SayYes probably will cost me more than $1200... so yeah, it is valid option for many.
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That price is ridiculous. I didn't spend $1200 a year on my son when he was a child.[/QUOTE]
here almost every children playground has labels " dogs are not allowed" as well as smallish parks and recreational areas. More and more dogs are delegated to certain places. We used to have forest preserves allowing dogs off leash but now it is big fine if they catch you...
 
I don't care how much the classes are I still would not pay for an on line course.$200.00 would be a 4 day trial for me.:winkgrin:
 
here almost every children playground has labels " dogs are not allowed" as well as smallish parks and recreational areas. More and more dogs are delegated to certain places. We used to have forest preserves allowing dogs off leash but now it is big fine if they catch you...
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Dogs are not allowed in children's playgrounds, but you are allowed to stand in front of the playground. When I take Bailey to the park, we stand near the entrance gates to the playground. Bailey can see and hear all the kids on the playground equipment and see all kids running and screaming in and out of the playground.

In other places that dogs are not allowed off leash like certain parks and beaches, I put Bailey on a 20 foot leash to practice recalls. It's perfect. There are distractions for her to take off, but she can't cause she still on a long leash.

So there are definitely ways getting around the no dogs off leash issue.
 
ClantyreSheltie said:
Replacement tires on my car only cost slightly more than that...
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it is funny how life is, is not it? It seems to always come to what is important to you... is designer dress worth $1200? Or designer shoes?
or pair of diamond earrings to last "forever"? what about education? Dental school Tufts for example is about $90 000 a year... is is worth it?
I know there are few doggie seminars, 3-4 days for about $600- $700 locally with some big name agility people teaching... are they worth it?
I took couple of one day seminars for $130, great info, but often next day I was kinda like "how did I do it? What did s/he showed us?" too much info was pushed in too little time and lots of info went past my brain. I did not find it effective learning.
What I found different with my online seminars is that I could return to them over and over again, I could listen to my coaching calls all day along while driving in my car, I could come anytime and ask a question and receive an answer to my problem or suggestion what I need to change to manipulate my results. So probability of things sinking into my decidedly not so young spongy brain is much higher with simple repetition.
 
Sharon said:
I don't care how much the classes are I still would not pay for an on line course.$200.00 would be a 4 day trial for me.:winkgrin:
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but what if you are not successful in trials? What if your dog repeatedly visits the judge/ steward, or balks off teeter or shuts down the moment someone makes loud noise. Will it still be worth trialing? And realistically once you start running into significant problems on the course you can not fix them in your regular class, you need to take privates with "person in the know" and $200 is equal to 2 hrs of private lessons here in Chicago...
lots of people on recallers did just that. They stop trialing and came to recallers and fixed their problems.
 
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SheltieChe said:
but what if you are not successful in trials? What if your dog repeatedly visits the judge/ steward, or balks off teeter or shuts down the moment someone makes loud noise. Will it still be worth trialing? And realistically once you start running into significant problems on the course you can not fix them in your regular class, you need to take privates with "person in the know" and $200 is equal to 2 hrs of private lessons here in Chicago...
lots of people on recallers did just that. They stop trialing and came to recallers and fixed their problems.
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I don't have to worry about the What if's because if my dogs did that we would not be trialing.My boys are confient boys and when we step up to the start line line they know their jobs because we trained for it.I am very lucky to have great trainers here in New England .I also think if there is a problem with anything on course you can fix it in a regular class and an example would be when Sting was popping the 10th pole when trialing I went back and fixed it in class and at home.I am sure lots of people lke the on line courses and don't balk at the price it is just not for me.What works for you may not work for me.:no:
 
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