How soon to Microchip & Poopy issues

[Tabitha]

No not same needle on different animals , though I have met some large animal vets that do.

But take a distemper combo. It comes in 2 vials. A dry powder and a liquid you mix. One time though the liquid vial top, once though the dry vial top and then suck up the vaccines and then inject into the animal. 3 times the needes passes though something enroute into the animal and rubber is tougher than skin and will dull a needle. the smaller the needle the faster it dulls. I always changed the needle after the vaccine was mixed it the syringe. Sure it cost a few cents more per vaccine but the animals tolerated them more.

My old vet didn't do this. It's probably why all my dogs, even my tough boy F-kap, had problems with needls. And a question a little off subject, why wouldn't my vet let me come over to keep my reactive sheltie, Dixie, calm when she was being vaccinated? She was SO scared but the vet told me to go sit down and not to touch her when he was giving her the shots. Dixie was staring at me with pleading eyes for me come to her and it was so hard not to. Is this a normal thing vets do? Or was it just him?

PS I am currently looking for a new, more caring, vet.

 

[JLSOhio51]

No not same needle on different animals , though I have met some large animal vets that do.

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Dr. Shelli:

Thank you for answering that question as quickly as you did. I thought that the second scenario was what you were referring to but I wasn't sure, hence the question. I will honestly tell you that I was nearly beside myself waiting on that answer. I was sure that it was multiple vaccines (treatment) with the same dog, but... So I feel much better now!

As a businessman, I can understand a vet's desire to save a few cents per client by employing this practice. However, doing so would certainly impact how I would feel about that practice overall. A vet that employs the attitude that you displayed in your answer would seem much more client/patient oriented than one who routinely reuses the needles (even though as I said, I understand the motivation). Moving forward, that will certainly be one of the issues I will discuss when the time comes to select a vet practice.

 

[celloyogi]

My old vet didn't do this. It's probably why all my dogs, even my tough boy F-kap, had problems with needls. And a question a little off subject, why wouldn't my vet let me come over to keep my reactive sheltie, Dixie, calm when she was being vaccinated? She was SO scared but the vet told me to go sit down and not to touch her when he was giving her the shots. Dixie was staring at me with pleading eyes for me come to her and it was so hard not to. Is this a normal thing vets do? Or was it just him?

PS I am currently looking for a new, more caring, vet.

I'm going with liability reasons. I, for one, prefer not to be around when my animals are getting injections/invasive exams of any kind. They don't need to be comforted by me and I don't want them to feel like I had anything to do with it. I won't restrain my own animals for the simple reason that no matter how well you think you know your pet, any of them can freak out and bite given the right situation. Maybe your vet was anticipating something like that.

I do restrain rescues that I take to the vet. The reason I don't have a problem there? The emotional attachment is different - I can immobilize them and not have that "oh no, my poor baby" feeling that gives them an inch to do damage, intended or not.

 

[celloyogi]

No not same needle on different animals , though I have met some large animal vets that do.

But take a distemper combo. It comes in 2 vials. A dry powder and a liquid you mix. One time though the liquid vial top, once though the dry vial top and then suck up the vaccines and then inject into the animal. 3 times the needes passes though something enroute into the animal and rubber is tougher than skin and will dull a needle. the smaller the needle the faster it dulls. I always changed the needle after the vaccine was mixed it the syringe. Sure it cost a few cents more per vaccine but the animals tolerated them more.

Human doctors do this, too, with all sorts of medications that need to be or are often combined in one syringe. Easiest way to avoid it is to ask for a new needle before your shot. I've yet to have a healthcare provider refuse the request. I worked at a family practice for years and only a few people ever asked. Especially for kids, it helps. Plus I always ask to have a larger bore needle for shots (myself and sub-qs for the furry kids). A bigger initial poke but delivers the med faster, so it's over sooner.

 

[Justicemom]

I'm going with liability reasons. I, for one, prefer not to be around when my animals are getting injections/invasive exams of any kind. They don't need to be comforted by me and I don't want them to feel like I had anything to do with it. I won't restrain my own animals for the simple reason that no matter how well you think you know your pet, any of them can freak out and bite given the right situation. Maybe your vet was anticipating something like that.

I do restrain rescues that I take to the vet. The reason I don't have a problem there? The emotional attachment is different - I can immobilize them and not have that "oh no, my poor baby" feeling that gives them an inch to do damage, intended or not.

Yep that's it liability and likely the vet has been bitten one time too much by owner letting go.

Last time I let an owner I didn't know really well hold their dog for me, it was a beagle, the dog jumped, the owner let go and the dog had my whole hand in its mouth. Never again. My techs hold, if the owners wants they can pet the rear end.

 

[Calliesmom]

My old vet didn't do this. It's probably why all my dogs, even my tough boy F-kap, had problems with needls. And a question a little off subject, why wouldn't my vet let me come over to keep my reactive sheltie, Dixie, calm when she was being vaccinated? She was SO scared but the vet told me to go sit down and not to touch her when he was giving her the shots. Dixie was staring at me with pleading eyes for me come to her and it was so hard not to. Is this a normal thing vets do? Or was it just him?

PS I am currently looking for a new, more caring, vet.

definitely depends on the vet....
when I started taking Happy the beagle mix to the current vet, I never saw a tech for I don't even remember how many visits.....
I saw the vet and the receptionist- it was a while before I knew that other people actually worked there
I held him and the vet did whatever he needed- pretty much the same with all my dogs.
now the tech comes in just to love on and sometimes help with the adorable shelties

 

[Caro]

Over here we have mandatory microchipping, so all puppies (and kittens) must be microchipped before they are sold or if they aren't sold on, then before 3mths. So basically all dogs are microchipped as small puppies, which means thousands of pups get microchipped every year without anaesthesia. So I really don't think there is any reason to delay microchipping, it is really a minor procedure and if it makes you feel safer then go ahead before desexing esp if you aren't going to desex for another 6-9mths.

 

[Rileys mom]

This has been interesting to read. I am also wondering about microchipping early. My vet prefers to wait untill the dogs are neutered/spayed but will do it early at owners request. I don't plan on getting Riley neutered for atleast 3 months (would like to wait longer if possible) but I go on a lot of camping trips. I worry if he were to get lost while camping and would feel better if he were chipped. I am thinking about getting him chipped early when we go in for our last puppy shots.

 

[JLSOhio51]

As I mentioned earlier, this thread has helped me decide what to do (micro chip early or wait) when the time comes for me to address the issue. I understand some of the reasons people have for waiting and most of them are logic decisions for individual circumstances. The one thing I haven't gotten clear on yet is why some vets recommend waiting. Would anyone who has been given the recommendation to wait by a vet care to share what reasoning he/she gave for making such a recommendation?

 

[Rileys mom]

My vet says wait until the dogs anesthetized so they don't feel the big needle.