How soon to Microchip & Poopy issues

[JLSOhio51]

just to add about chipping more.... dogs do not have to be asleep to have it done...

Melbell:

I am glad that you posted this. I was a bit confused that so many posts mentioned holding off micro chipping until some other procedure requiring anesthesia was to be performed. Since I have no personal knowledge of this procedure (and written online research doesn't really give graphic enough info for me), I went to YouTube to view the procedure. The videos I found online didn't show the procedure to be that traumatic for the dogs I saw.

I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has had a negative reaction to micro chipping without anesthesia (negative for dog or owner). I'm not looking for graphic or gory details, just what happened that made the experience bad. IMHO, given the choice, I would choose a momentary period of discomfort vs. the potential problems associated with anesthesia.

 

[melbell]

Thanks everyone. I think we'll microchip at the next booster visit. Think too many needles that day would be a problem? I will feel better when he is chipped.

No poop accidents since Wed morning. I am staying out with him longer. Last night he pooped and he did this morning also. The problem definately is with us, not him. We're just not tuned in to the poopie yet.

Don't worry, it's ALWAYS us when to comes to training . You'll figure out his routine soon. My 5 month still has accidents in the house, but just not as often and usually bc we're busy in our own lives and not paying attention to the signs.

If he's just getting the booster shot and not another shot with it, he should be fine. The only thing is remember he will be sore and tired afterwords.

 

[melbell]

Melbell:

I am glad that you posted this. I was a bit confused that so many posts mentioned holding off micro chipping until some other procedure requiring anesthesia was to be performed. Since I have no personal knowledge of this procedure (and written online research doesn't really give graphic enough info for me), I went to YouTube to view the procedure. The videos I found online didn't show the procedure to be that traumatic for the dogs I saw.

I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has had a negative reaction to micro chipping without anesthesia (negative for dog or owner). I'm not looking for graphic or gory details, just what happened that made the experience bad. IMHO, given the choice, I would choose a momentary period of discomfort vs. the potential problems associated with anesthesia.

I agree with you. I've never heard a bad thing about chipping without the anesthesia. TBH i never heard of chipping WITH anesthesia. Every dog I know that is chipped has been awake for it.

 

[Calliesmom]

Jocu got microchipped at his last set of puppy shots- no issues at all except a little bleeding. I didn't remember Cranberry bleeding at all- he also got chipped at puppy shot visit.
My dogs get lots of cookies at the vet and love going there

 

[Justicemom]

I worked in a humane society and we mircochip everything that doesn't already have a chip and that includes the newborn kittens and puppies before that go to foster or leave our building. Done properly it is perfectly safe and the majority do not react at all. I microchip all my personal puppies at 7 weeks before they go to their new homes(after 8 weeks).

The size of the needle scares the humans not the animals. It is a sharp never used needle and super quick. Dull needles hurt especially if it has gone though the top of a vaccine vial a few times in preparing the vaccine. Yet most vets don't change the needle before giving a vaccine and smaller needle hurt more and take loong when injecting fluid(simple physics related to diameter size) yet alot of vets put on this tiny 25 gauge needles to give tiny animals injections.

 

[JLSOhio51]

... Yet most vets don't change the needle before giving a vaccine and smaller needle hurt more and take loong when injecting fluid(simple physics related to diameter size) yet alot of vets put on this tiny 25 gauge needles to give tiny animals injections.

Whoa Dr. Shelli:

You just said something that I never - ever considered. Are you saying that it is standard practice for vets (at least some of them) to move from animal to animal using the same needle? Or did you mean that in the case of multiple shots to the same animal, the needle is not changed for the series of shots? This may be a stupid question to some, but I will confess, this issue never crossed my mind.

If the practice is animal to animal, what would you think the response would be of the vet if the client did not want this practice used oh their animal?

 

[coopersmom]

As far as chipping with anesthesia, if I confused anyone I am sorry. I don't think vets put dogs/cats under anesthesia just to do the chipping. My vet meant that when Casey was under for neutering, she could to the chipping then. She wouldn't put him under specifically for the chipping.

Kim

 

[JLSOhio51]

As far as chipping with anesthesia, if I confused anyone I am sorry. I don't think vets put dogs/cats under anesthesia just to do the chipping. My vet meant that when Casey was under for neutering, she could to the chipping then. She wouldn't put him under specifically for the chipping.

Kim

Kim:

I understood that. What I was picking up on was that several people mentioned waiting until some other procedure requiring anesthesia before doing the micro chipping (ostensibly to avoid pain to the dog). I understand that choice, I was just reacting to whether or not there should be much discomfort if the chip was installed the way my research has said it is more often done (quickly without anesthesia). I will likely have my pup done as soon as I get him so it is likely there won't be any impending surgery on the horizon.

 

[take4roll10]

Interesting points Dr. Shelli. Thank you for sharing. I am curious about the same question JLSOhio asked. Do you mean many vets don't change the needle for a new patient or for different vaccines on the same patient?

Not sure if this helps, but when I donate blood the gauge of the needle is much bigger (like ridiculously bigger) than the gauge of a needle used to draw blood work for medical tests. I don't feel any difference in pain between both needles. They don't bother me going in, but they do hurt a little when taking out. Actually the tiny needle they use on my finger to test my glucose level hurts more afterwards than where they draw blood for donating.

I believe the microchip needle is even bigger than blood donation needles, so it must be a little uncomfortable for dogs. Obviously the slight discomfort is worth it in the long run.

 

[Justicemom]

Whoa Dr. Shelli:

You just said something that I never - ever considered. Are you saying that it is standard practice for vets (at least some of them) to move from animal to animal using the same needle? Or did you mean that in the case of multiple shots to the same animal, the needle is not changed for the series of shots? This may be a stupid question to some, but I will confess, this issue never crossed my mind.

If the practice is animal to animal, what would you think the response would be of the vet if the client did not want this practice used oh their animal?

No not same needle on different animals , though I have met some large animal vets that do.

But take a distemper combo. It comes in 2 vials. A dry powder and a liquid you mix. One time though the liquid vial top, once though the dry vial top and then suck up the vaccines and then inject into the animal. 3 times the needes passes though something enroute into the animal and rubber is tougher than skin and will dull a needle. the smaller the needle the faster it dulls. I always changed the needle after the vaccine was mixed it the syringe. Sure it cost a few cents more per vaccine but the animals tolerated them more.