Loose Leash Walking (I wanted to share)

This was a timely post for me to read as we have been having some loose leash walking trouble with Mikos lately. It is a people problem here, combination of 3 different people doing the walking and me trying to get used to walking 2 dogs at the same time a lot of the time. I found it interesting that you tried the waist leash because we just decided on that idea yesterday. I am going to take another read of your post and see which tips will apply here. We are just starting the clicker training and I find kikopup's videos great. Congratulations on you and Precious success, and thanks so much for sharing!

<3 Nancy, I'm so glad you got to read my post. I definitely do the no no on other people offering to walk my dog other than myself when I'm training Precious. That's why in regular training classes too, it's fine to come with your family, but you really need to determine who's going to do the bulk of the training. And in my family it's me. So many different people give off different cues and do things different and react/teach overall differently. I remember when I had classes my trainer told our class a story about how she would have her trainer friends over for dinner. And every time she did, she would lock her dogs in a separate area of her house, where the TRAINERS couldn't get to her dogs. Why? Because every person teaches their dog slightly differently. She didn't want the trainers to try to get the dogs to 'come here/come/over here/common" and confuse what they already know perfectly. And THAT is totally fine. Ex it doesn't matter if you say stay or wait or any other command word, and it doesnt matter if you use the hand signal with your palm facing towards the dog, or down towards the ground or index finger point out like a "shush" signal... WHATEVER you choose to do, the main thing is consistency. You can do it however you like, it just needs to be consistent. So one day you cant say wait. The next stay. The next one hand signal and the other another. With dogs, it's all about consistency. And especially if you have three people walking the dog so many times a day, every day, it's sort of understandable in that sense why they might not be sure of which rules to follow (that they aren't suppose to pull). The rules get blurred because, like me, so many different people at so many different times increases the chance of unconsciously sending the wrong message to the dogs - increases the chance of inconsistency. Reviewing the commands, the hand signals, the steps to take when your dog pulls and how to reward might be a good idea. It helped me to sit down and reorganize how and which way I was doing everything to make sure I myself was being consistence with my commands, my rewards, my expectations. My best friend comes over a lot to walk Precious when I'm at work or at school. Before I let her anywhere near Precious months ago and several times throughout now even, I gave her a run down of EVERYTHING, as I did not want Precious taking two steps backwards in her training. It's helped a lot. I double check as often as I can to see how she interacts with Precious and show her first hand what I myself do when I want Precious to do certain commands. How to get her to calm down. How to get her to stay. Etc. It's worked for us, it just takes a lot of work among the humans to get things packed down so everyone knew, both her and I, were on the same page and knew all the same things. With my parents, it's a lost cause. So I don't let them train Precious AT ALL. EVER. LOL But mmmm, nonetheless, again, I'm really glad my post has helped you at a timely time for you and your family! It never hurts to review training. Dogs training and human training. As my trainer told me, it doesn't matter how long it takes Precious to learn to heel and walk loosely on a leash without being reactive. Some people it takes a few months. Some people it takes a few years. The most important thing is that you reach the end successfully. I wanted to share that great word of wisdom so you could put it in the context for your Mikos or any other person and their dog that might be reading this! He may be a year old but there's no shame in that! I'm sure he'll pick up on the clicker training quickly! <3 I'm so glad so many people have read my long post and have found useful tips here and there, that was my main intention - to share the VERY helpful tips that have been working first hand for Precious and I :) Good luck Nancy! Let me know how the waist leash training goes! I did more training with Precious again today. It's definitely going well :biggrin2:
 
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Thanks Michelle, I know what you mean by consistency. My 17 year old son and I do the majority of the training and we are on board with what we want and how we want to do it. My husband on the other hand will take Mikos for a walk while we are at school and work and he doesn't really follow the techniques we set out. We think we have the answer to this problem, first we will limit hubby doing the walking for a bit, or have him take Brie who is very content to walk beside you and never bothers with people, dogs, cars etc. Secondly we have started to put together a chart that shows any hand signals and commands so that everyone can visually see what goes on. Hopefully this will end the, "I thought you said you did it this way?" problem! I'll keep you posted as to how we do.
 
What a great read! Thanks for posting this. My Claussen has ALWAYS wanted to walk at my side. He's the "loyal, faithful" dog. Little Bear was the "overactive, extremely hyper let's go let's go" dog. So heel training with him was actually needed. I am sorry to say I haven't done any heel training inside the house with them. It's all been outside. And Claussen is starting to pick up on Little Bear's bad habits. So, if my dogs get one step ahead of me, I stop. They keep going, no idea I've stopped, and receive the shock of reaching the end of the lead abruptly. I, too, have been pulling them back asking them to heel. But I've noticed when I don't pull them back to me, Little Bear will come back on his own with my saying "heel". Little Bear looks up at me intently when I talk to him on a walk. His butt hits the ground instantly when we stop at crosswalks. Claussen shifts his weight from one hind foot to the next "preparing" to sit. He's less eager to please. He takes his time for everything. But I've also never brought treats out for a walk, either. I need to get a treat fanny pack or something. I've really gotten lax on tightening their training screws because we can go on a walk and pass dogs that go INSANE and they just look at the dog like "wth is your problem"? So my dogs have great manners, but I would like them to focus on me a bit more rather than sniffing the ground and not noticing when I stop.

You've just inspired me to get back into training mode! Thanks :smile2:
 
.My Claussen has ALWAYS wanted to walk at my side. He's the "loyal, faithful" dog. Little Bear was the "overactive, extremely hyper let's go let's go" dog. So heel training with him was actually needed.

You have IMO found the difference between sable lines and AOAC. The AOACs are a bit more intense, um yeah that is the word.:lol: Especially the blacks.:wink2:
 
You have IMO found the difference between sable lines and AOAC. The AOACs are a bit more intense, um yeah that is the word.:lol: Especially the blacks.:wink2:

I had no idea! Maybe I should have gone with Claussen's brother all along. Nah-scratch that. I wouldn't trade Little Bear for anything. But I am posting a new thread in the Behavior section because I am having some difficulties with his "intensity". Which IS the word haha! Perhaps you guys can help me there.
 
You have IMO found the difference between sable lines and AOAC. The AOACs are a bit more intense, um yeah that is the word.:lol: Especially the blacks.:wink2:

That is so interesting! Mikos the merle is the challenge at the moment while Sable Brie is an angel on the lead!
 
idk, i have a blue now and he's the best behaved sheltie i've ever worked with.

my first sheltie was a sable and she was crazy :rolleyes2:
 
I just wanted to say congrats!! Seems like you made leaps and bounds by figuring out what you're doing. I have to admit, sometimes I hate being the one that is contributing to the issue. LOL. But always a good lesson learned.

I have yet to work on this, but I so need to. Koji is killing my knees when he pulls me down the stairs. Ouch. I'll check out the video later on. Thanks!
 
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