Need some good eyes - video eval

Sealtainn said:
Those are Barbara L's pups. If you know agility peeps you'll know who that is.
She's in Ventura.
Has bred many top shelties, I think that's the litter Kathy Leggett & Jen Pinder got their shelties from.
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Really? Does she do conformation? Or just agility?
Ventura isn't too far from me. (okay, a couple of hours, but closer than Sacramento).
 
She breeds for agility. I think she was on a WT at one point.
She's on FB. If I can figure how to email here I could send you contact info.
 
Sealtainn said:
She breeds for agility. I think she was on a WT at one point.
She's on FB. If I can figure how to email here I could send you contact info.
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Yes! That's Rockstar. I couldn't think of her name. And that video does have Shout, Kathie Leggett's puppy in it.

My trainer had a lot of great things to say about her breeding program--and she knows a lot about shelties and agility.
 
k9kreationz said:
Totally understand and for the most part, agree. I'm trying to find breeders in the area in general. There are a handful, but I'm hoping some may understand performance dogs more than others. I may not find that at all or may find someone who knows enough about the sport to give me a good opinion, versus telling me he's too tall and has no coat. LOL.
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I'm not sure how much any arbitrary breeder might really be able to help.
If you find a good one that understands how the structure affects the physical mechanics & has solid experience then that would be a priceless resource I think.

Later, I can forward you some references to resources I have used to educate myself specifically on this subject. Just keep in mind there are so few pups with "perfect" structure that this education can help you work with the dog you already have and not just how to find the next one.
Clearly Koji enjoys doing agility with you.
 
have not seen this thread previously so I answered on the other one, about structure. I happen to have amazing chiro vet as well as massage therapist for my boys and found them by referral from my dog trainers. If you know in your area/ class/ club any really serious winning top dogs ask their owners who they go for chiro- that will be your best reference.
 
Sealtainn said:
I'm not sure how much any arbitrary breeder might really be able to help.
If you find a good one that understands how the structure affects the physical mechanics & has solid experience then that would be a priceless resource I think.
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I'm hoping I find it!!!



I posted this on the other thread since they're one in the same.

1. Found a great chiro that a great trainer/handler trusts with her dog. She isa vet and does chiro and acupuncture. She also does agility, so she understands the sport and how the body should move, etc.

2. My breeder recommended me to a woman who knows the breed and does agility. I figure, if she trusts her, so do I. She's blunt and can be overly critical, IMHO, regarding this, I'm fine with that.

3. I also contacted the person that someone else suggested on her who's new me. If I can see her, even better.

So, I think I've got my bases covered. A person who knows the breed and knows the sport. A chiro who knows the sport and is also a vet. It's going to be a lot of money, but I'd like to know now if I should ease up on his career, stop it, or re-train.

Koji seems to love it, so I'd hate to just stop. But honestly, if I can do it with lower heights, or even less equipment, I'm good with that too. At least we have options with the different venues.

keep those paws crossed.
 
Best of luck.
But you do know you have plenty of past videos on your YT site to compare past performance to present performance.
Of what I've just compared I'd say his range of motion in the recent video is similar. This would suggest that if he isn't extending then its likely to be structural rather than injury (in this respect).
But you should be a better judge of this.
I did see early teeter videos where Koji did not have any problem coming straight down and off the teeter versus the recent video.
Contacts in dw seem similar except that he has picked up more speed with confidence on the dw.
This doesn't say whether he has or doesnt have an injury.
But keep in mind that there is breed-standard and then there is Koji-standard.
Having a straight front does not eliminate Koji from agility. If it did it would eliminate a ton of other shelties and lots of other breeds too.
I couldnt tell if he's adding an extra stride now rather than before, he does seem to take-off close to the jumps.

You probably have the best eye for what is normal for Koji -- have you tried reviewing past videos to the recent ones?

As far as handler focus, this looks like Koji being Koji, and having a handler focused dog is not a bad thing.
If your intuition says you think there is a problem then take a break, give him a rest for a while & then gradually start up again & re-assess.
 
So, I thought you guys might find this interesting....at the seminar I went to yesterday, the instructor said,

"if someone thinks doing a [DW] 2o2o is bad for the dogs structure, then they need to rethink agility because the jumps are a lot worse".

I had to kinda chuckle as we were having that discussion. But, honestly, everyone believes different things. I think a 2o2o is fine on the DW, but not on the A-frame. I also don't like to see 2o2o or "running" teeters. But that's just me. And granted, my dog isn't very "coordinated".

So, my next goals is the rest of his contacts and working on strengthening his back end and legs overall.
 
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