New different behavior from Jasper

Chris said:
I am so sorry for what happened to you. Please don't beat yourself up. You're a wonder Sheltie Mom, and jasper loves you. One incident like this won't ruin his life, and your love and positive attention will heal this small setback. He's so lucky to have you! I admire your good sense yo take Jasper away and to listen to him. He spoke so clearly to you, and he's blessed to nave a Mom who truly understands him. :yes:
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What Chris has pointed out is very important and something that we're all forgetting to tell you in our shock and anger, IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT. Jasper will get over this with time and patience, please don't blame yourself.
 
I completely agree with every response to your posting. And I definitely believe you should interview any potential trainer and also sit in on a class or two before making a decision to put Jasper's future training in anyone's hands. Positive reinforcement is the way to go whether you're working with Jasper by yourself or when he starts again with a trainer. Just continue loving your boy and being patient with him. The two of you will continue bonding and his fears will lessen.
 
I agree with everyone else- you are doing the right thing to help Jasper get over his fear. That trainer was terrible to 1) jerk the leash and scare the sheltie and 2) to not listen to you.
Check out this website- many positive trainers to choose from. You are lucky to live near a large city where there are lots of choices.
http://www.apdt.com/default.aspx
 
Awwww poor Jasper :( He sounds like he was so scared. No way would I ever go back to that trainer!

I'm no where near a professional when it comes to giving advice on Shelties, but I think you have received some very good advice from others. I personally would just love on him lots and lots.

(((hugs))) to Jasper and you!
 
Poor Jasper

Julie Everyone here is telling you the correct thing to do. Run away from this instructor ,who should not be allowed to instruct!!:mad: If this person works for someone else, please report them as being an abusive person.:wink2: So they are not allowed to do this to another animal. Everyone knows through common sense you can't be harsh in any way shape or form to a sheltie never less an abused sheltie.:eek2:

I would give poor Jasper some time to just get to trust you again then try someone who may be willing to come to you to help Jasper.Try your local ASPCA or Sheltie group, even your vet may have suggestions. Good Luck and Give extra hugs and treats to encourage poor little Jasper.:yes:
 
Thanks for all the support. I was feeling bad about putting Jasper in the situation but I didn't know she was going to do that. the instructor had used all positive clicker training to that point. It was class number 4!! thanks for telling me it isn't my fault. i needed that.

I looked at the web site that list the trainers in my area. Thanks for the web site. i will use that for next adventure in training. I would like Jasper to get into agility or therapy dog so some of the instructors teach for that so i will find one i like for long term training.

Jasper still is scared ....i did a little bit of training with him last night with a Bunch of HUGS, Good boy, ear rubs and playing. He doesn't like the sit and down but loves to roll over and shake hands. I think he is confused what to do with the sit and down command. Maybe i will go back to just one command have him learn that and then introduce the next command. He did release some urine last night at the beginning of training.

I took him to doggie day care yesterday and he did fine with the other dogs. I wanted to get him socialized and not sit in his crate all day after the day of training. the workers said he was a little shy but did come to them.

I wish i could just take back that experience.

thanks,
Julie
 
Jasper

Oh no! Poor little Jasper, what an awful experience for both of you. I agree with the others here - don't ever take him back to this 'trainer'.

You said that Jasper was passing urine repeatedly. My Jessie did the same thing when she was a puppy. She was quite a shy little dog and didn't have much confidence in herself.

I did some research and read somewhere (sorry, I don't remember where...) that in the wild a puppy would release urine when it felt that is has gotten himself into trouble with the mother dog. Apparently puppy urine contains some pheromones that appease the mother. Thus, through the release of urine Jasper is basically wanting to tell you that he's a sweet little guy and doesn't mean any harm.

I'm sure it will stop once he regains his confidence. Sounds to me like you're doing a great job there with the little fellow.

Hugs, Josh and Jessie's Ma :smile2:
 
Julie,
My heart goes out to you. What happened wasn't your fault. How could you have known? I know how tough it can be to build that confidence, but you did it once with Jasper, and you can do it again! :yes:
 
omg...what a rotten thing to do to any dog. This instructor should be shot. I have 9 shelties and never had any issues training them with positive reinforcement. I would suggest that everyone in the class leash up the instructor and yank and make ear deafening noises at her. I train shelties and know yanking them around does not work, but using positive reinforcement to train them does. There is a trainer here who uses the techniques this brute used on your dog and she has been shut down and her license revoked (she owned a business) I am so sorry your poor baby went through this. What a creatin this instructor is
 
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