It's so interesting to read these posts and see how everyone's dog differs. Indie is my first pooch, so everything I try with him is just a best guess, someone's advice, google search, etc. But I see I'm not all that unfortunate. Indie is crate trained, he's never had an accident since the day we brought him home at 13 weeks in his crate. He is now 6 months, and he's only ever had ONE inside poop, and that was the night we first brought him home. So I really trust him on the no poop inside thing.
Pees on the otherhand - THAT frustrated me. I had an aunt who told me her golden retriever was basically housetrained at 15 weeks. I know shelties are smart, so I thought maybe we got a dummy. Every time I thought he was doing well, he'd backslide! So we'd go right back to more crate training, which broke my heart because I LOVE having him out. He now sleeps in the bed every night with us, and after a recent successful day that he stayed with a friend's dog in another apartment unattended for 6 hours, no accidents, we're now trusting him. I THINK he has it down.
Best of luck with your pup, I really think the best advice is back to square one with the crate.
Pees on the otherhand - THAT frustrated me. I had an aunt who told me her golden retriever was basically housetrained at 15 weeks. I know shelties are smart, so I thought maybe we got a dummy. Every time I thought he was doing well, he'd backslide! So we'd go right back to more crate training, which broke my heart because I LOVE having him out. He now sleeps in the bed every night with us, and after a recent successful day that he stayed with a friend's dog in another apartment unattended for 6 hours, no accidents, we're now trusting him. I THINK he has it down.
Best of luck with your pup, I really think the best advice is back to square one with the crate.