Ann
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I firmly believe that all behavior can be taught without ever resorting to what I consider borderline abusive behavior. I know the Monks are held up by many as the "authority" on raising a good puppy...but whenever you read a book on dog training I think you have to let your own gut feelings dictate what you take from that book and what you discard. I would never want a dog of mine to view my hands as tools that deliberately deliver any level of discomfort and fingers down a throat until gagging is discomfort.
Trini
I couldn't agree more with Trini's comment, and those who are appalled by this approach. I also share their opinion of the "Monks" book, which was originally written to train German Shepherds -- a whole different animal than a sensitive Sheltie. Put your fingers down the throat of a Sheltie once and he will never forget it. You're setting yourself up for a dog who's hand shy and maybe worse.
People who know how to train breeds such as Shelties recommend the "yelp" or "ouch" method that's been suggested. A puppy understands the sound his littermates make when he pushes them too far. A littermate will then stop playing. It's the most effective way to teach your puppy how much nipping is too much.
I honestly don't think I could bring myself to do what they suggested...
