running contacts

What this has made me think is that in a lot of cases, it's best to really get the dog moving. When we were trying to get Bentley to get his contacts (this is especially relevant on the a-frame) we would slow down, try to baby it, etc...but really, it seems like we should have been hurrying him to get up and over the apex so that he wouldn't have a choice but to bounce twice.

Am I right in thinking that the farther down that a small dog hits after coming over the apex, the better the chance that they hit the contact, right? Neither of my two are big apex fliers, so that would definitely be what we'd need to work on if we went in that direction.
 
What this has made me think is that in a lot of cases, it's best to really get the dog moving. When we were trying to get Bentley to get his contacts (this is especially relevant on the a-frame) we would slow down, try to baby it, etc...but really, it seems like we should have been hurrying him to get up and over the apex so that he wouldn't have a choice but to bounce twice.

Am I right in thinking that the farther down that a small dog hits after coming over the apex, the better the chance that they hit the contact, right? Neither of my two are big apex fliers, so that would definitely be what we'd need to work on if we went in that direction.

I wish I knew the answers. I think you slowing downs def causes Bentley slowing down. What I have figured that those behaviors HAVE to be trained away from equipment first as in foundation.
 
I wish I knew the answers. I think you slowing downs def causes Bentley slowing down. What I have figured that those behaviors HAVE to be trained away from equipment first as in foundation.

That's definitely true.

I have a friend who is taking the Silvia Trkman online running contact class and the first thing that they do is teach an all-out run on the flat (on a flat carpet on the ground). In watching the videos I think she is running, but Silvia keeps challenging her to get her to run full out.

I think that's really interesting.
 
What this has made me think is that in a lot of cases, it's best to really get the dog moving. When we were trying to get Bentley to get his contacts (this is especially relevant on the a-frame) we would slow down, try to baby it, etc...but really, it seems like we should have been hurrying him to get up and over the apex so that he wouldn't have a choice but to bounce twice.

Am I right in thinking that the farther down that a small dog hits after coming over the apex, the better the chance that they hit the contact, right? Neither of my two are big apex fliers, so that would definitely be what we'd need to work on if we went in that direction.

This is totally my newbie opinion.

I was watching your old videos of Bentley, I'll tell you this, even if he is flying the apex "properly", his striding is basically exactly like Koji's. He hits at the top, maybe with the first foot of the apex, so his second bounce hits right above the contact zone, which means his third bounce is off the A-frame.

For me and Koji, if I speed up, it's a given he'll miss his contact, due to his striding. If I pull off too hard, he'll miss it. If I slow down or do a RC, he hits his contacts because he's looking for me and therefore adds in a few steps...or even one extra step and that's enough to get him in his contact zone.

So, I bet Bentley hits his contacts when you stop and point to the ground (like I saw J doing), but once you move off to the side, are too much in front of him, too much speed, etc, he'll jump the contacts. It's because he wants to keep up with you and keep going and the fastest way to do that is to jump and with what I saw in the four videos I watched.

Sigh. What is the fix? I dunno. I'm doing Rachel's box method and she said to call/email her when I get him on the A-frame after doing all the other stuff. Then she'll help me with his lack of bounce. He does bounce when we lower it and he looked beautiful!

For yourself, if you could get Bentley to take one more small stride, he'd be good, since he's smaller than Koji. With Koji being so long, another stride would be very unnatural for him. Not sure if any of this helped you, but at least you know you're not alone.
 
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