Scared new puppy

The behaviorist Dr Sophia Yin did this wonderful socialisation checklist, I think every puppy owner should have it! You can work through these yourself at home. I got my current pup, Kismet, a few weeks before lockdown and I was stuck in bed with a bad back, so we worked through this list. The boys over the road dressed up in hats and boots and the rest, and she met lots of horses rather than other dogs. Kismet can be a little skittish at times but I think her start was good enough that she'll get more confident with age.


https://drsophiayin.com/app/uploads/2015/12/Socialization_Checklist.pdf
 
Um ok these are the standard developmental stages anywhere i have ever read ever. Just like human children and I have degrees in that. Nothing is absolute, but the point being she for her dog at the perfect time to socialize. Inmeant to encourage but now am left feeling embarrassed and like an idiot for participating. I will see if i can delete and stop posting so as not to spread “false information.”
Don't let the 'herd' discourage you. Nobody is right all the time including experts. Without reading I am not even sure who the 'expert' was :ROFLMAO: As it could have been anyone including you, though not me as I don't know what was in the post even.

My point is be polite to people here and disagreements are just that, even if sometimes you have to let a little roll of your back (y) I would hate to see you and your ADORABLE puppy leave. Discuss freely and post stories and pictures as she grows. Advice here is free so if you toss it out you lose nothing, if you find it helpful it is a bargain :)
 
The behaviorist Dr Sophia Yin did this wonderful socialisation checklist, I think every puppy owner should have it! You can work through these yourself at home. I got my current pup, Kismet, a few weeks before lockdown and I was stuck in bed with a bad back, so we worked through this list. The boys over the road dressed up in hats and boots and the rest, and she met lots of horses rather than other dogs. Kismet can be a little skittish at times but I think her start was good enough that she'll get more confident with age.


https://drsophiayin.com/app/uploads/2015/12/Socialization_Checklist.pdf
This is great! Thanks for the checklist.
 
I don't necessarily feel this is gospel that applies to all dogs. Yes, to some, but how do you explain rescues that are locked in cages for years, adopted out with someone who takes the time to enable them to gain confidence and then they bloom into this great dog? On the other hand, there are rescues that never blossom. There are pups, well socialized during that exact time frame - some are great, some are not. I guess, my point is, I don't feel all is lost outside that 12 weeks and I sure as heck wonder who thought it up! Think on it.... how much socialization truly does happen prior to 12 weeks when pup is not fully vaccinated? It may set a stage, or help push dog owners to act, but I don't feel it is as cut and dry.

Deacon is 21 weeks - same age as Blueberry. He has actually been paws on the ground longer than Blueberry who had to wait for her titers. Both pups have been with other dogs in the home, with owners working on socializing. Blueberry is leaps and bounds ahead of Deacon who is just now coming into his own confidence with different things. If that window was closed at 12 weeks, I'd have a pup afraid to go on walks and Blueberry surely would be a lost cause waiting for her titer results. Instead, Blueberry has a more confident personality to begin with so she is meeting life head on with each activity she is introduced to. Deacon is a 'let me wait at the door and watch for a while before I decide if I want to enter the room' type but he's getting better.

Deacon lives with 2 pups who he races around with, herds and terrorizes at home, came from a litter of 5, we have dogs all around us, he went to puppy school - he does NOT like other dogs big or small. I'm not giving up because he is past that 12 week time frame - I'm just taking it slow. Introducing things in HIS time frame, not mine. Deacon is a loving, soft hearted wanna be lap dog - he's not some high energy, super confident, out going, ball of fur rolling around everywhere. He's getting better, he's just slower at attaining confidence in things.

Point is - socializing and training is a life long thing. I know with Brodie, we did all according to the experts - he went through a fear stage at about 16 months where we literally had to start from the beginning. His door wasn't closed at 12 weeks either. Maybe it's sort of like vaccinations.... we know from titers that vaccines provide more immunity to our dogs than just a year, yet many are convinced they MUST be vaccinated annually, hence they bring their dog to the vet for an annual check up which IS super, super important and many folks would brush off to save money. Maybe the folks preaching that train of thought are doing the same thing - saying something to give a sense of urgency to those who might not act in any way otherwise unless they feel it is some vital threshold they MUST pass over or face having a wild animal in their home instead of a well behaved dog. Who knows...
I think dog behaviorists and researchers have given the 8 to 12 weeks for socialization much thought, and for good reason. A dog that isn't socialized at all is a problem, and a common dilemna in dog ownership. I’ve certainly been guilty of it with my past dogs I've had. Minnie's vet told us to take Minnie out at ten weeks, before her shots were complete, so we did, and used common sense. She started puppy class at 10 1/2 weeks old. Now she is too friendly.:)
 
I am so sorry Daisy - wasn't trying to embarrass you at all! I never called it false information.

You gave your thoughts and I gave mine. We can have different points of view, agree and disagree.

You felt humiliated by me publicly, so please accept my public apology for making you feel that way. It was never my intention.
 
I agree that the 12 week socialization deadline is not absolute. Yes, it’s an important socialization period but please don’t let it pressure you or worry you too much.

Hugs to you and your sweet pup.
 
I have always gone with no time table, just patience and time takes care of
so many things. I think the breeders have a lot to do with the start of a puppy
also. My Buck for example had the breeder grand daughter come and hold the
litter and play with them. Others were involved also. My two shelties (I MISS)
were also in the same situation all socialized. The best with Buck he was even
potty trained.
 
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