Seizures among littermates

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marymrumfelt

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Today Theo and Lily came in from playing outside and we noticed Theo's balance was off and he couldn't hold himself up. Our gut immediately dropped b/c we recognized these symptoms, as his sister from his liter also gets like this. Lily, his sister, gets very confused and disoriented, but Theo didn't seem as confused. He was, however, really scared. His eyes were dazed over and glossy, but his ears would perk a bit and we got him to wag his tail a couple times. He's been sleeping for a few hours now.

Has anyone ever heard of littermates having seizures? Could it be something else? Lily went to the vet last week and he checked her ears and they are fine so not an ear infection. I can't think of much else that affects balance. The vet said the next step for Lily would be a specialist. But she is only having them about every two months and they aren't very severe but they usually happen for about three days at a time. Will be interesting to see if Theo has anymore. I keep in touch with the other puppies and none of them have noticed, but they have all agreed they will stop vaccinations and keep a close eye on them. Sigh...
 
That does sound like seizures, Mary. As I've said, my Pixie always got them after exercise, and I know other dogs who have exercise-induced seizures too. I hope it isn't chronic for your guys, but they can be managed. Pixie hasn't had a seizure in more than two years.

It's also quite common for them to sleep a lot afterward -- I think it's the body's way of helping them recover.
 
Mary-
I have not input to give you, but I will keep my fingers crossed that this doesn't become a serious problem for you.
Dani
 
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I can't figure out if they are related to exercise as it's kind of hard since they are always running around it seems like. He had been outside playing for about an hour. Lily's last seizures (and the first one in a cpl months) was after we took her on a long walk to a state park thing here. She was pretty hot, but we didn't run or anything, just walked casually. The vet said the next step would be a specialist. At least with Lily she's cut back dramatically in terms of the amount.
 
I am so sorry to hear Theo and Lily are having seizures. I have no experience but you may want to search all threads by Katniss. This past summer her Kai started having seizures and I remember her posting quite a bit about her experiences and research she had been doing on them. I sure hope you figure this out.
 
I do not have any suggestions, but I hope they progress positively ASAP.

Sending good thoughts.
 
I am so sorry to hear about the seizures.I do know that epilepsy can be hereditary. I had a Peek-a-poo years ago,and his father was an epileptic.My pup was on medication for his life.

I will keep these pups in my prayers.Lets hope the vet can get to the bottom of it.I am sure it was very scary to see him so helpless.
 
It does sound like a seizure possibly induced by exercise or excitement. If it is epilepsy it is perfectly manageable and may only need minor medication at the onset of a seizure.

On the other hand it could be Exercise Induced Collapse (EIC) which is not life-threatening and just has to be managed.

I hope you can find the cause and sort them out.
 
labgirl said:
It does sound like a seizure possibly induced by exercise or excitement. If it is epilepsy it is perfectly manageable and may only need minor medication at the onset of a seizure.

On the other hand it could be Exercise Induced Collapse (EIC) which is not life-threatening and just has to be managed.

I hope you can find the cause and sort them out.
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I believe you mentioned EIC before and I did research and I don't believe that's it. I watched a few youtube videos of dogs having an EIC and it doesn't resemble that very much, only the off balance aspect. Plus, it seems those dogs recover a lot quicker-- once they cool down. When Lily and Theo have these episodes they are very, very dazed for a decent amount of time afterward. Sometimes even up to eight hours. I'm just confused why my vet said they were too young to have epilepsy?

Luckily they aren't too serious and as long as they remain that way we will probably just ignore them and deal with them every two months or however often they come. The vet says they aren't really hurting her as long as they stay random and don't get more intense. I am just thankful it's not from Hadley. I've read a lot about poodles being prone to seizures and I really believe these pups have poodle in them. Another why the DNA test is a must.
 
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