Setback with 2o2o

It really looks like without the target plate, and without assistance, she doesn't yet get where about she is supposed to stop. On the aframe, it almost looked like she was looking for the target plate as she was coming down, and then not seeing it, went ahead and came off.
I don't think she is at all like Bentley, who crept on the contacts because he wasn't as driven/it was demotivating/stressful. I think once she understands her contact behavior, she will do it quickly, without the creeping along. I think she may bounce off from time to time, just because she's quick and driven, and wanting to go. She really looks like she is shaping up to be an independent dog, and once she truly gets it, should have no trouble with the target plate missing, and going to where she needs to be.
Just looks like a green dog right now who doesn't fully understand is all
 
HopeShelties said:
Just looks like a green dog right now who doesn't fully understand is all
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Stacey, you are right.

I think we thought she knew the behavior, so we stopped using targets. But, we may have stopped too soon.


And you're right--her issues are VERY different from Bentley's :smile2:
 
corbinam said:
I thought we had done a ton...but I think the problem is that we moved the target plate away and continued where we were (which worked).

BUT, I just assumed that she would be able to generalize the behavior in any situation. But in reality, she was keying off of us to tell her what behavior she should present. So when we were removed, she was confused,

We will need to go back to sometimes targets, sometimes not, with the handler in different locations. I think we practiced too much with us standing right next to her or running ahead--not behind or way out to the side.
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Been there done that. I started using the target and sending him ahead to go find it for himself, touch it and then I would come to him and treat him. I also took the target and would throw it out ahead, to the side or behind me and have him go find it and touch his nose to it. Then once he had that down I put the target at the end of the A frame and sent him over while I stayed behind. He finally got it and his contacts have been so much better since.

Don't worry, we all have setbacks. She'll get it figured out :)
 
I saw your blog post about the teeter....Do you think Lexi is being a "teenager"? And choosing to do what she wants to do, etc? I can only imagine how frustrated you are, but don't give up and don't let it get too you too much. I know with Koji, it took a lot of one-on-one attention with all obstacles to get him to really love it. Granted, not sure what is going on with Lexi, but I know at some point, Koji went backwards too. Sadly, that's when I started buying equipment, lol.
 
Sharon said:
Ashley all I can say is OMG you best be lacing up them sneakers.Lexi is wicked fast.
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That is EXACTLY what I was thinking! Actually, it was kind of tough for me to have any sympathy for your plight LOL I was that envious hahahhaahaha :o

Not that I know half as much as most of you, but I think it's not back to step one with the target lid altogether for Lexi. Just doing the training exercises with you being behind then treat on the lid etc then trying to walk around her, like Ortegah said get her to find the lid... then RC at the teeter, etc ... That's kind of what I am working on myself atm...

Don't beat yourself up, it's a simple fix I bet! I noticed right now with Toffee that I am eager to move on for example... but my trainer insists to get the basics first with many different situations as dogs don't generalize etc etc... I know she must feel like a broken record, but I think it's a common thing for us to want to move ahead fast sometimes?
You guys are such a great team, I wouldn't feel bummed
 
k9kreationz said:
I saw your blog post about the teeter....Do you think Lexi is being a "teenager"? And choosing to do what she wants to do, etc? I can only imagine how frustrated you are, but don't give up and don't let it get too you too much. I know with Koji, it took a lot of one-on-one attention with all obstacles to get him to really love it. Granted, not sure what is going on with Lexi, but I know at some point, Koji went backwards too. Sadly, that's when I started buying equipment, lol.
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Honestly, I don't think it is an attitude thing with the teeter. I thought that at first, but she has definitely developed a fear. When she refused it a couple times last night, I tried to get her to just bang the teeter (with the end an inch or so off the ground). She was SO hesitant...kept backing away like she was scared. Then she would touch it but back away before it hit.

Tried again today just to see what she would do (hoping she forgot!), but she touched it with two feet and jumped off when she realized what it was. I didn't push her to get back on.
 
A lot of dogs seem to backtrack on the teeter, and go through a second teeter is scary episode.
If she is scared of it, you may take her back to the basics on it, and move back to where you were as she shows she is more comfortable.
It *should* be a fairly quick process. It's not like she doesn't know the obstacle. She just needs to go back and get her confidence back, and offering it from start to finish again (really, she should be back to where she was fairly fast) should help her to regain it.
 
Che had episode with teeter when he accidentally jumped high one and banged it loudly at empty place, so sound and motion probably spooked him, next time he would not come close and jumped off when I tried to run him... so off we went, Che works good with no pressure, I just sat down with treats and keept throwing them near the teeter end, then closer, then when teeter bang, then on teeter itself asking Che to put his one paw on. Within 15 minutes he was stepping on it again.
 
corbinam said:
Tried again today just to see what she would do (hoping she forgot!), but she touched it with two feet and jumped off when she realized what it was. I didn't push her to get back on.
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Aww...poor Lexi. I wonder what is going on with her. I know a dog who was trialing for over a year who all of a sudden, had a very slight mishap on the teeter and it took a lot of retraining to get him back on it. Scary thought, huh? Keep working with her. I would assume you have to start from the beginning again just to get her comfy with it. Good luck, I know how frustrating this can be.
 
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