Starting out

I just had to add my two cents about obedience and agility. We didn't know about agility when we got Bentley, and we had already started him in obedience. Now that we have Lexi, we plan on getting her through advanced obedience classes before we even start agility.

With our agility club, obedience isn't required, but knowing what I know, I think it is a tremendous help. If nothing but to further the trust and bond between you and your dog. Agility is hard if your dog doesn't know to focus on you and come back when you ask.

You can always start agility foundations while you are doing obedience, it can be considered the same type of things. Targeting to a plate or your hand is just a command...which is obedience.

I think in order to teach your dog to be a good agility dog, it helps to build a foundation of obedience...listening to you is key. Agility enhances drive and if your dog loses sight of listening to you and is all drive, you won't get them to do what you want. I think obedience first, drive second. But then again, having a happy, well-behaved house dog is more important to me than having an agility champion.
 
The agility club in my area requires your dog take an obedience class or at least have some level of obedience training.

Bailey is starting with their beginner obedience 2 class the end of the month.

I bought a tunnel w/ a tent at The Christmas Tree Shoppe. It's was on sale for $6.99. Bailey loves it. She actually likes the tent too.
 
I'd go ahead and take an obedience class, and get a nice sit, down, come, and stay on your dog. It'll help you when you start your agility class.
Another thing that would help is this book:
http://www.cleanrun.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=1029&ParentCat=397
or
http://www.cleanrun.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=1213&ParentCat=397
It's not a requirement, but it'd help you to be a bit ahead of the game, as it teaches flatwork (though in the first one it also covers the basics of starting them in agility too).
 
Here's a few things based on my experience in starting out:

(You can use a clicker for any of these exercises - just mark the correct behavior with a click/treat.)

1 - Obedience requirements: I think a better description here is BEHAVIOR basics rather than obedience because it's easy to confuse what you need for agility with competitive obedience. (Not that more advanced obedience is a bad thing. I had my CGC when I started agility training.) What you should have are basic behaviors - Sit, Stay, Down, and a very good recall. You can start without these in some clubs (like mine for instance) but it is highly recommended and encouraged - especially when you start off leash work.

2 - Tunnels: A child's play tunnel like the ones described here are perfect for indoors because they are small and short. An actual agility training tunnel would be a bit unruly indoors, especially if you don't have a lot of room.

3 - Flatwork: This is one of the foundations for agility; it's what happens between the obstacles. It includes things like 'recall to heel', basic sends, turning skills like front & rear crosses, etc. This is something you can definitely start working on without worrying about the dog's joints. Clean Run, the only magazine on the market for agility that I know of, has a book available called "Flatwork - Foundation for Agility" by by Barb Levenson (http://www.cleanrun.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=1213&ParentCat=261). I looked on Amazon for this but they only have 1 used copy available and the seller is charging TWICE as much as a NEW copy from Clean Run would be.

4 - Teaching you do where his back legs are: Believe it or not, dogs don't really realize they have rear legs; or more specifically don't usually pay attention to where they are in relation to their front. So, we have to teach them. This skill is necessary for jump but more so for contacts like the dog walk and teeter, which are narrow. There are two different exercises you can do here:
  1. Ladder work: Place an extension ladder on the ground and walk him through it. Do NOT expect him to go through the entire thing the first time through. Start by rewarding him for starting to walk through it, even if he bails after a few steps. Slowly increase what he has to do with the ladder to receive the reward (get halfway across, get all the way across, get half way WITHOUT touching a rung, get all the way WITHOUT touching a rung.)
  2. Walk the plank: Put a plank of wood on the floor roughly 2x4x8. (You can do 2x4x4 if you can find that in the scrap wood or have a hardware store cut a 2x4x8 board in half for you.) Start by rewarding him for putting his feet on it. Increase the requirement for the treat by having him walk across it (all 4 paws don't have to be on at this time). Increase the requirement again by making sure he keeps all 4 paws on the board. Stopping at the end is NOT required for this exercise. If you want to make it a little more difficult, you can put something under the board to raise it off the floor by about 6 inches.

5 - Teach targeting: Get the lid from a margarine container. Hold it in your hand perpendicular to the floor. Reward when he touches his nose to it. As he gets proficient at it, add the word "target" to the action. Next step: place the lid on the floor; reward when he touches it with his nose. (MAKE SURE he's touching it with his nose before you reward. Some dogs, after a little while, will go through the motion but won't actually touch the lid. You DO NOT want to reward that.) Again, add the word Target as he gets proficient at this. Finally, slowly start to move the target away from you and send him to it with a "Target" command from a sit stay. You can bait the target with a treat to get him started but still reward correct behavior even if you bait.

6 - Teach 2 On 2 Off: Using the same plank as above... once he can walk across with all 4 paws on the board, start requiring him to stop at the end with 2 paws on the board and 2 on the floor (2 on 2 off or 2o2o). If you want to make this a little more difficult, raise the board off the floor by 6 inches.


Target training and 2o2o training go hand in hand. We use targets at the end of contact obstacles when training 2o2o because it gives the dog a reason to stop. Even if the target is baited, we still reward the correct 2o2o behavior.

Hopefully there will be something in this long post that can help you get started, Jessica. Some of these exercises you can play with Fluffy also, like Target, the ladder and "walking the plank". Regardless of whether you are working with Smudge or Fluffy, make it FUN and make it SHORT. (Training works best in small doses - take 10 - 15 treats (not including bait treats) and when they are gone you are done.
 
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Thanks! This was what I was thinking, but I want to double check. I'm also thinking that obedience would help Smudge with being around other dogs more. It might be really awful if he cowered down in terror at agility class because he wasn't used to other dogs.


So as soon as my work schedule settles down it's off to obedience! Fluffy won't be far behind either! :yes:
 
Maia only took puppy obedience classes and then we started with agility foundation classes. Chinook is in obedience/rally for competition and if I do say so myself, Maia has a better understanding of 'basic commands' like sit/stay down/stay etc than he does. The only difference is the 'crate games' that I have done with her. It's a DVD, super easy and super fun. It is a requirement for the agility classes that I take with Maia. I started playing crate games with Chinook now to get his understanding up to par with his younger sister Maia's. I highly recommend it. You do them at home and the great thing is, you can do it with Fluffy right away! My agility insturctor got a new BC pup this summer. She started these games with her the first day. The pup is now 5 months old and it rocks on recalls, sit/stays, knows the release word, distractions don't bother her, etc. It is amazing. I wish I started from day one with my two.

One thing about obedience however, if you do plan on doing agility, make sure you teach Smudge to walk on BOTH sides, left and right, not just your left. In agility, they need to be comfortable with being on either side of you.
 
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