Training Cosmo: Clicker or Basic Obedience?

Arby0617

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Hi,

We adopted Cosmo ten days ago from a shelter that had a pretty good read on his personality strengths and weaknesses. He's four years old, timid around strangers but very outgoing, feisty, and loving with his people. It's clear he had good early training on leash walking and basic commands like "sit," "come," and "quiet." I suspect he learned "heel" so completely that he does this on his own without commands. He can even correct me if I drift off to his left while on a long walk.

He is known to be somewhat afraid of men, and sure enough he attached to me very easily but was submissive and anxious around Brendan for the first week. Even now, he's more finicky if Brendan is in the apartment at mealtime. He sets Cosmo's food bowl in the bathroom because it's small enough to feel like a "cave." At first, he was much more fidgety and less sociable with Brendan, and whined a bit whenever I left.

Then he discovered his toys, especially his b-a-l-l. In the past three days, he has initiated games of fetch roughly every 2 or 3 hours if he can get our attention. His anxiety level when I'm not around seems to be going down, and although he still likes to eat in his cave if Brendan is at home he is no longer fidgety or agitated around him. I should add that in spite of the anxiety, Cosmo warmed up to Brendan on the first day, allowing him to give belly rubs and licking his face.

Brendan and I agree on the basic goals for his first round of training classes: build his confidence, teach him the commands and tricks he doesn't know yet, and get him comfortable around other dogs and people.

Our goals for ourselves is: for Brendan to learn the basics of formal training since I took our last dog to classes on my own; and for me to be confident in handling a younger, somewhat larger dog than I'm used to. (Cosmo is tall for a Sheltie, and solidly built. A little overweight at the moment, but we think his normal weight would be about 28-30 pounds.) We would like him to prepare him for taking agility classes to further his Sheltie socialization, but not for competition purposes (out of our league financially.)

Whew, long way of asking: will Clicker training address some of the basic behaviors and commands Cosmo may still lack? My intuition tells me he will be more mentally stimulated by clicker responses and additional tricks, and thus he will continue to build confidence. He is already more responsive to attention and praise as rewards than to treats. Brendan is concerned that clicker classes won't be basic enough to build the foundation Cosmo will need to benefit from sports training. We do agree he'll benefit from clicker classes eventually, before starting agility training.
 
clicker wins EVERY time

With a clicker you can time things perfectly, make it even better.
As long as you make sure you 'load' the clicker in the beginning, he will learn so fast it will make your head spin
 
Loading the clicker?

With a clicker you can time things perfectly, make it even better.
As long as you make sure you 'load' the clicker in the beginning, he will learn so fast it will make your head spin

You'll have to clue me in . . . do you load the clicker with treats? I thought it just made a noise. I'm so clueless :sadsmile:
 
As was I! I got so much help here it's truly amazing!
No time like the present, I said as I went to look for a clicker and couldn't find one in the whole town... SO waited for one in the email, thank you ebay! :lol:

'Loading' a clicker means you get the dog to KNOW that a click means YAYWOWZERGoodJobHerecomesatreatanysecondnowgooddog without you having to waste time saying all of the above LOL

So, starting out: All you do is click and give the dog a treat right away, after doing that a few times the dog will start to associate, I think 60 times initially they said, depending on the smarts of the dog, which of course means your Sheltie probably gets it in 10 clicks! hahahaah :yes:
The clicking doesn't help if the dog doesn't absolutely know that it means the click marks the exact right behaviour.

Then you can start training and shaping behaviours right away, without having to get frustrated :)
 
Thanks! We decided on the clicker training yesterday. I downloaded the course descriptions so we could verify that both cover the same basics. Now that Cosmo is settling in and is less timid, his Sheltie nature and young age (four, barely an adult) is showing. Bring on the clicker!

Our local aspca sells them so I will be all set when the time comes.

Roberta
 
Sounds like Cosmo has found a great forever home! Good for you and Brenden for caring enough to work with him to overcome his fears! Please becareful not to overwhelm him. Take it at Cosmo's pace. From everything you have said about what you have done with him already, it sounds like that wont be a problem.
 
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