SheltieChe
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well, I would settle for majority of dog owners from my local dog park taking the test
Training Recall
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It's true. I take classes from an instructor who is a repeat national champion in both USDAA and AKC. She teaches everything from puppy classes to Masters level handling, and private lessons to teams at all levels.
SheltieChe
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right. And both of you are training your dogs at local petsmart and are new dog owners who came to your respective world team members not knowing how to teach basic recall to your dog.
But we are way off topic here again.
But we are way off topic here again.
Are you seriously saying that I and Sharon train at PetSmart? You couldn't be further from the truth, and I really don't understand why you feel the need to say something like that. You made a broad statement about world class trainers, that may be true for some but both my experience and Sharon's says it isn't true for all. We were simply saying that our experience with this kind of trainer has been different than yours. I don't think our posts deserved this kind of nasty response. As for it being off-topic, you first raised the trainer issue, not us.
ClantyreSheltie
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Oh stop. Even I, who am a very literal person, knew what she was saying.
Pet people (here defined as people who take classes at PetSmart) tend to not also take classes from "famous" agility people. She is 100% correct. Until such time as those people mature in their training away from "basic pet obedience", they probably won't be seen with competitive agility folk.
People who are in advanced agility classes, we would hope, have matured in their training methods beyond PetSmart training. Any dog that lives in my house is probably better off training-wise than most pet dogs, without having set foot in a class. My training has matured past the need for that.
This is the same phenomenon that keeps professional handlers out of "handling class". They have matured past the need for classes (unless they have a very young puppy, or a fruitcake that needs the exposure). Handling classes are generally comprised of Novice handlers, not professionals. Of course, with that said, I am entered in a six week class with my mothers BC puppy, but the class is for her, not me. And it's only necessary since she doesn't live with me.
SheltieChe
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Margaret, I apologize for my sarcasm, it was unnecessary.
If you look up on original posts where discussion started, I posted that regretfully many basic classes, directed toward regular pet owner/ not the pet enthusiasts, doggie person in the know, that knows difference between USDAA and AKC rules
/ but regular pet owner will go to/ % of people who do take puppy classes and basic obedience classes remains regretfully small/ often taught inefficiently. Puppy classes are often no more than socialization time and basic obedience classes modeled after competitive recall to heel which might be great in class but is useless in real life where owner goes to dog parks and is unable to control his/ her dogs. Considering that this country is huge in dog aggression, and dogs are delegated to dog parks as opposed learning/ training happening on the streets, teaching efficient basic recall will go a long way towards decreasing many problems.
If you look up on original posts where discussion started, I posted that regretfully many basic classes, directed toward regular pet owner/ not the pet enthusiasts, doggie person in the know, that knows difference between USDAA and AKC rules
/ but regular pet owner will go to/ % of people who do take puppy classes and basic obedience classes remains regretfully small/ often taught inefficiently. Puppy classes are often no more than socialization time and basic obedience classes modeled after competitive recall to heel which might be great in class but is useless in real life where owner goes to dog parks and is unable to control his/ her dogs. Considering that this country is huge in dog aggression, and dogs are delegated to dog parks as opposed learning/ training happening on the streets, teaching efficient basic recall will go a long way towards decreasing many problems.OK..... back on topic.......
I would also love to hear some tips for working on a great recall and not just a recommendation to sign up for $300+ class.. (sorry Sheltieche..Susan's a great trainer, but tooo pricey for many people here on a tight budget). Maybe even some games that others have learned in their recall classes (online or live attendance classes)
Riley's recall is at 85-90%. I can recall him when playing with other dogs, or people, but fail with squirrels, cats, things he reacts too in the home...and probably cars, although he is NEVER EVER allowed off leash except in a securely fenced in area (I'm slightly obsessive). Riley may have done exactly what Gizmo did, although I think Riley would be trying to also BITE the tires as well....
I would also love to hear some tips for working on a great recall and not just a recommendation to sign up for $300+ class.. (sorry Sheltieche..Susan's a great trainer, but tooo pricey for many people here on a tight budget). Maybe even some games that others have learned in their recall classes (online or live attendance classes)
Riley's recall is at 85-90%. I can recall him when playing with other dogs, or people, but fail with squirrels, cats, things he reacts too in the home...and probably cars, although he is NEVER EVER allowed off leash except in a securely fenced in area (I'm slightly obsessive). Riley may have done exactly what Gizmo did, although I think Riley would be trying to also BITE the tires as well....
ClantyreSheltie
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KarenCurtis
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That's why I got it, I speak fluent sarcasm.
That must be why I like your posts- I am a closet sarcasm enthusiast. Sometimes it comes out.