update on hope vet #3 today after mini seizures

[mbfrench]

Im going to try to not sound like im preaching...But SHes 4 weeks OLD! She should not be at the park she should not be outside, she should not be in contact with any other dogs!!! SHE IS 4 weeks old!!!!! She has no immunity NONE at all. Besides having some sort or Seizure issue from what seems like unknown origin she is VERY susceptible to pick up parvo, distemper..etc at the drop of a hat! If this dog does make it she is going to probably end up with life long issues, due to neurological damage from the seizures so early on. Whether the mom was there or not is irrelevant at this point, Ive had to hand raise a litter with out the mom. She needs to be on a mild food since her body can not handle straight dog food or if shes even small enough and not getting enough to be tube fed.

I cant believe someone who be foolish enough to sell a 4 week old puppy.

Totally agree with you.

And without sounding like a real b****,at this point,IF this puppy makes it or not,I would surely be reporting this so called "breeder" to the authorites

I'm sorry if I sound rude,but why would you even consider bringing home a puppy so young? Since you already have a sheltie,or for that matter any dog could pertain to the scenario,why would you bring a dog home at only 4 weeks?

This pup belongs in a nice controlled enviorment,she should NOT be in contact with any other dog,be at the park,in contact with any other 4 legged fur babe.Even your other sheltie should be kept from contact from her.


I hope she makes it,I really do.It is possible,with very good 24/7 care she will,but she is in for a long,long road~

 

[nykkchick]

because she was 4.5 weeks on friday, soon to be 5 weeks on tues.. my mom brought her sheltie home at 5 weeks from a breeder and everything was fine. jake was 3 months from petland and was very sick..

every single pet i have in my home was sick. for some reason i seem to be the life savers. someone sold a blue and gold macaw at 5.5 weeks which is nuts, they should be about 17 weeks already weened, she had pnemonia and enterbacteria when i brought her home found out 2 weeks later and saved her life, she is 8 now. tony was an abused adopted out to 5 people, im his 6th owner blue and gold macaw, he loves me and snuggles with me, and calls me momma, like the other one does. jake was sick with really bad kennel cough. Hope will survive, she has me. and i have tried calling several places in MI and nobody wants to help or i Keep getting voice mails..

Totally agree with you.

And without sounding like a real b****,at this point,IF this puppy makes it or not,I would surely be reporting this so called "breeder" to the authorites

I'm sorry if I sound rude,but why would you even consider bringing home a puppy so young? Since you already have a sheltie,or for that matter any dog could pertain to the scenario,why would you bring a dog home at only 4 weeks?

I hope she makes it,I really do.It is possible,with very good 24/7 care she will,but she is in for a long,long road~

 

[jerros]

It's really disheartening to hear that a puppy so young is experiancing seizures. The first time I ever saw a dog having a seizure it was a very frightening thing, for the dog as well as all the people around the dog who cared about her.

I really hope that with good advice from a vet, and good care on your part that your puppy will pull through this, and hopefully the seizures are being caused by some outside source that can be found and eliminated, not something your puppy has to live with it's entire life.

The other people who have replied to you in this thread have given some good advice. A 4 week old puppy shouldn't be around other dogs or let loose in locations where other dogs have been.

Why? Well there are two main reasons. Puppies immunities at that young age are not built up and they are vunerable to just about everything. Even at 3 months old I didn't let my pup around any other dogs until he had been fully vaccinated at 4 months.

The second reason you don't want your pup around other dogs is so that your pup doesn't get other dogs sick. I'm not placing a ton of trust in your breeder, at 4.5 weeks your puppy should have had 2 worming treatments. Assuming the breeder actually paid for them, even if she had the treatments it's possible that your pup still has worms, and if another dog or cat in your house comes in contact with that poop and eats it...congratulations all your pets now have worms, or your neighbors pets now have worms and getting rid of the infestation just became more difficult.

I think your on the right track, and it sounds like you've found a good vet. I hope you don't get offended by me saying this because I mean it in the kindest way possible, but it sounds like you don't know much about how to care for a puppy this young. I don't blame you, most books seem to assume you get the pup at 2-3 months of age not 4 weeks so the instructions for care are very different. I'd suggest hitting up the library, searching the internet, and talking to your vet about what the best way to care for the pup at this age would be. Specifically talking about what food should be given, talk to the vet about possible supplements for the puppy to replace what it's not getting from her mothers milk, talk about sleeping arrangements (is the drafty crate with a towel enough to keep the pup warm at night?) Also talk about daily care, what could you do to help fill in for the puppy's missing mother to help teach your puppy the lessons momma would normally teach.

Good luck!

 

[Megansmom]

Everyone here is right in saying, "do NOT let this baby's feet near anything or anyone for a long time". Be in constant contact with a Vet that you trust who advises constant care and vigilence.

I'm sure she'll be okay, but you just need to take extra over and beyond care of her.

 

[Ann]

There is a wonderful puppy formula you can get from Nature's Farmacy online called Dogzymes Puppy Bac that is a powder and simulates the mother's milk.
http://www.naturesfarmacy.com/store/details.php?prodId=194&category=44&secondary=&keywords=.
You mix it with water and make the formula. You should be feeding her that with some chicken baby food from the little jars you buy in the supermarket. Once she's doing OK, you can then mix it with some canned puppy food or some puppy kibble (NOT adult food!) There are other puppy supplements on this website that would help her too, especially since she's so young.

It's important to keep her hydrated, so be sure she is drinking too. Since she would normally still be on her mother's milk, she may not be too adept at drinking water yet. Use a dropper if you have to.

I strongly echo everyone else's recommendation here that you report the person who sold you this puppy. No puppy should be separated from the mother before 8 weeks of age, earliest! This is just criminal.

 

[Ann]

And please...everyone here is correct ... NO OUTSIDE CONTACT until she's healthy and several weeks older! She has not even been vaccinated yet (nor should she be). You should be keeping her inside and away from anything that or anyone she could pick up bacteria from.

 

[Smudge]

I'm sorry if I sound rude,but why would you even consider bringing home a puppy so young? Since you already have a sheltie,or for that matter any dog could pertain to the scenario,why would you bring a dog home at only 4 weeks?

People can go off on me and explode if they want, but knowing what I know now I would have brought Smudge home at 4 weeks in a heartbeat, and if I had the funds and room I would have brought the other 4 home as well. Heck, he wasn't getting wormed or anything else, so how is being on a cold hard floor with no proper care and being seperated from the mother any different than being in a caring home with somebody attempting to the the right thing?

The people who don't test for genetic disorders, the people who breed any dog to any dog, and the people who sell puppies before 8 weeks are one and the same - scam artists who are only after money without a care or worry to the health of the lives they have been allowed to bring into the world.

These people know all the words to say, all the right moves to make. Many people are under the assumption that I was - it's a dog. It's easy to care for. Everybody has a dog, right? Wrong. It's not easy. That's probably why people don't research, because it is a dog, and they think it's easy to take care of.

Maybe because it's because of my own personal experience I don't judge people who are trying to get help to do the right thing.

 

[KarenCurtis]

People can go off on me and explode if they want, but knowing what I know now I would have brought Smudge home at 4 weeks in a heartbeat, and if I had the funds and room I would have brought the other 4 home as well. Heck, he wasn't getting wormed or anything else, so how is being on a cold hard floor with no proper care and being seperated from the mother any different than being in a caring home with somebody attempting to the the right thing?

The people who don't test for genetic disorders, the people who breed any dog to any dog, and the people who sell puppies before 8 weeks are one and the same - scam artists who are only after money without a care or worry to the health of the lives they have been allowed to bring into the world.

These people know all the words to say, all the right moves to make. Many people are under the assumption that I was - it's a dog. It's easy to care for. Everybody has a dog, right? Wrong. It's not easy. That's probably why people don't research, because it is a dog, and they think it's easy to take care of.

Maybe because it's because of my own personal experience I don't judge people who are trying to get help to do the right thing.

I think the posts are emotional because people have to stop buying pups at 4 weeks of age, period. Yes, these people are probably saving pups lives,(hopefully, it's a gamble) but it perpetuates the problem. It you stop buying them, it puts these awful people out of business, and common sense needs to be used when purchasing dogs.
Karen

 

[Megansmom]

I think the posts are emotional because people have to stop buying pups at 4 weeks of age, period. Yes, these people are probably saving pups lives,(hopefully, it's a gamble) but it perpetuates the problem. It you stop buying them, it puts these awful people out of business, and common sense needs to be used when purchasing dogs.
Karen

Could NOT agree with you more Karen!!!

 

[vicky2]

I think the posts are emotional because people have to stop buying pups at 4 weeks of age, period. Yes, these people are probably saving pups lives,(hopefully, it's a gamble) but it perpetuates the problem. It you stop buying them, it puts these awful people out of business, and common sense needs to be used when purchasing dogs.
Karen

I was about to post the same thing!

And about the ear shaking and feet nibling, could it be allergies or is she too young?