update on hope vet #3 today after mini seizures

I'm not a vet or a breeder but didn't someone mention she has the puppy bac on the way. My thought is I would get that into her system to boost her immune system more before worming again without a vets approval and definitely keep a close watch on her and if it is still runny tomorrow get her to a vet to make sure she doesn't dehydrate if she hasn't gone today. Maybe Dr.Shelly will be back on the forum later she always gives great advice.
 
I agree with Jessica - keep her hydrated. She would be like a small child - easily dehydrated even if she is drinking. I didn't think worming started that young though.
 
can i deworm her myself? or is this a vet thing?



You 100% should! :yes: Just because there are no worms in the poop does not mean the dog does not have worms. Take it from somebody who has been there. :dead:

If I am not mistaken worms can cause runny poop. I am sure they will chime in when they read this. :yes:
 
I'm new here and I'm sorry I didn't get to read the whole thread. I just thought I'd tell you a little bit of what I learned from a dog with seizures and maybe some of it will apply to your situation or maybe not.

My boyfriend and I have a dog we got from a rescue group, he had been a stray, he was about a year old when we adopted him. We had him about a month before he had a seizure, we took him to the vet, they said watch him, he continued to have seizures, originally one a month and then more and more often. We put him on potassium bromide, seizures continued and the vet added phenol barbitol (I think you mentioned this last drug).

My dog probably has/had epilepsy but this is what I learned over the next few years (the dog is about 9 now) chemicals, preservatives and stress set off the seizures. I learned all of this the hard way, I inadvertently gave him seizures by giving him rawhide which had preservatives, using a different carpet cleaning solution, bits of food that I was eating, various things. I had to link all those things to his seizures. So we've learned to eat foods without preservatives (healthy for him and us too) use green cleaning products or things we naturally have like vinegar and baking soda (on surfaces the dogs walk or lay on), no pesticides are sprayed on our yard and we do have the exterior of our house sprayed to prevent ants but the dogs aren't permitted outside until 4 hours after the application.

The phenol barbitol can make them sleepy and kind of listless, we tried to keep it to the smallest dose without him having seizures. Just this past year with the vet's approval he was taken off all medication and so far it's been fine (it's been about 6 months). I just wonder if we could have taken him off it a few years ago. I used to feed him prescription food for a sensitive stomach but actually have had better results (less stomach upset) with premium foods. I currently feed the dogs Innova (dry) with various premium wet foods mixed in, sometimes a little organic cottage cheese or yogurt.

So I don't know if this is helpful or not but it took me a long time to connect the preservatives to the seizures in my dog. The carpet cleaner I discovered pretty fast, I had to clean all my carpets again just a day after doing it. This may have nothing to do with your situation but maybe something will be helpful to someone on this board. Best of luck to you and your puppy, Hope.
 
i mighta missed it too. the breeder said she wormed her once. am i suppose to still deworm her? i dont see any worms in her poop. its just like loose and light colored from the natural holistic food.

Pups should be wormed starting at 2 weeks of age,and every two weeks thereafter,right till 12 weeks.


In this time frame,pups should have made a vet visit and be checked,and givin worming meds if something turns up positive.

Heartworm tests are another whole ballgame,and must be done by a vet.

Ours were on a worming schedule when we brought both of them home,and I continued with it.It can be easily done at home.
 
can i deworm her myself? or is this a vet thing?

There are several products you can order online,we particularly like Worm-x,but there are many to choose from.

In a pinch,and to get her done,you can also buy a product in Walmart,then follow up with fecals done by your vet. It is quite palatable,and they like the taste.But you really do need to know the weight of your pup every time you administer it,as you don't want to overdose her.
 
You can also feed her Diatomaceous Earth with her gruel, or mixed in her food. This is what I do with puppies. It's a mechanical wormer that does a fine job on roundworms without upsetting their digestive tract. I think I have seen it at My Organic Market, I buy it bulk from Wolf Creek Ranch.
 
wow your dog is lucky to have you. im sorry you had to go through so much. my gut instinct told me she wasnt have seizures, and she actually isnt so i got really lucky. i do believe certain food allergies can do things though, as when i fed the kd science did hope acted like she had turrets syndrome. thus getting the pheno. now i only gave her one dose. something inside didnt feel right about giving it to her. im very psychic have been for a very long time, and i just knew something didnt seem right. even crying on the way home from the er vet i told my roommate while he was driving it doenst sounds right or feel right, i dont think she is having seizures from liver shunt. once i took her off the kd the turrets type of symptoms went away. i mixed a little bit of beneful with warm water to see if it was the kd or the beneful and it wasnt the beneful. i fed both of them to her in the begaining. (my friend has a border collie/eskimo that has such severe sensitivy to food she has spent a ton of money trying to find the right food for her. she has a 15 week old puppy and she cannot feed her puppy food she throws up, she has to feed adult pedigree small bites and it worked.

I noticed what i could swear was blood in her stool today, and after talking to my friend she told me that her friend who fed her border collie innova had the same thing. your dog hasnt have that issue at all?? right now i have decided to feed her just chicken breast, and the puppy formula when she gets it. plain old chicken breast like we would eat. this poor pup has been through hell and highwater and i havent even had her a week yet. so im gonna start with the chicken breast, then see how she does and add some rice, i dont want to do hamburgur yet because of the grese. im figuring if i get her on formula like maybe she was a human child then add in the chicken, maybe it will clear her system up and i go from there.

the more my psychic instinctss are kicking in the more i keep feeling like you guys said she was not fed enough mothers milk. and i honestly wonder if she came to me starving, and if thats why this whole event started to begain with.

i do know that she was meant to be with me, and i will tel you guys something, everyday in bright light she is getting grey patches to her coat and to her ears. im hoping she may end up being a cryptic blue which is always want i wanted, a tri that looks like tri but looks lightly merled too.. which would be a total OH MY GOD! you can only see this in bright daylight though.

anyway thanks for sharing your story with me. i hope your dog continues doing well. i have to be careful with what i use too in my home because i have macaws and suffer from migraines!!!



I'm new here and I'm sorry I didn't get to read the whole thread. I just thought I'd tell you a little bit of what I learned from a dog with seizures and maybe some of it will apply to your situation or maybe not.

My boyfriend and I have a dog we got from a rescue group, he had been a stray, he was about a year old when we adopted him. We had him about a month before he had a seizure, we took him to the vet, they said watch him, he continued to have seizures, originally one a month and then more and more often. We put him on potassium bromide, seizures continued and the vet added phenol barbitol (I think you mentioned this last drug).

My dog probably has/had epilepsy but this is what I learned over the next few years (the dog is about 9 now) chemicals, preservatives and stress set off the seizures. I learned all of this the hard way, I inadvertently gave him seizures by giving him rawhide which had preservatives, using a different carpet cleaning solution, bits of food that I was eating, various things. I had to link all those things to his seizures. So we've learned to eat foods without preservatives (healthy for him and us too) use green cleaning products or things we naturally have like vinegar and baking soda (on surfaces the dogs walk or lay on), no pesticides are sprayed on our yard and we do have the exterior of our house sprayed to prevent ants but the dogs aren't permitted outside until 4 hours after the application.

The phenol barbitol can make them sleepy and kind of listless, we tried to keep it to the smallest dose without him having seizures. Just this past year with the vet's approval he was taken off all medication and so far it's been fine (it's been about 6 months). I just wonder if we could have taken him off it a few years ago. I used to feed him prescription food for a sensitive stomach but actually have had better results (less stomach upset) with premium foods. I currently feed the dogs Innova (dry) with various premium wet foods mixed in, sometimes a little organic cottage cheese or yogurt.

So I don't know if this is helpful or not but it took me a long time to connect the preservatives to the seizures in my dog. The carpet cleaner I discovered pretty fast, I had to clean all my carpets again just a day after doing it. This may have nothing to do with your situation but maybe something will be helpful to someone on this board. Best of luck to you and your puppy, Hope.
 
My dog probably has/had epilepsy but this is what I learned over the next few years (the dog is about 9 now) chemicals, preservatives and stress set off the seizures.

My last sheltie would get seizures from the food he was on as well. My vet, who is holistic, brought it to my attention right away. Since we changed his food, he was fine. We knew it was the food, because when I was away, my mom bought him the old food, and within a week, he had another seizure. So yes, preservatives and chemicals can cause seizures.
My yard and house are 100% chemical free, no bleach, no detergents, just organic products and Norwex, and my two shelties are on a raw diet, so I know what they are eating.

I hope your little one will be OK. She is so cute!
 
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