USDAA Jump Height Change

so all the other cutoff dog heights are even numbers- but they use 17.5 for the 18" jump height..............:confused2:
that still screws Cranberry which is why he will likely never do USDAA:no:
no way I'm jumping him at 22". 20" I'd think about it but 22"- no way.
Dixie jumps 16 like everywhere....

I'm glad that they finally did something about the jump heights but seriously how hard would it have been to have 12, 16, 20, etc- like everybody else.....?

and don't smaller dogs do USDAA- nothing below 12"?
 
Calliesmom said:
so all the other cutoff dog heights are even numbers- but they use 17.5 for the 18" jump height..............:confused2:
that still screws Cranberry which is why he will likely never do USDAA:no:
no way I'm jumping him at 22". 20" I'd think about it but 22"- no way.
Dixie jumps 16 like everywhere....

I'm glad that they finally did something about the jump heights but seriously how hard would it have been to have 12, 16, 20, etc- like everybody else.....?

and don't smaller dogs do USDAA- nothing below 12"?
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I know the more I thought about it the 17.5" cutoff was odd. Why not make it 18" since that is the jump height like everything else.

I didn't realize it but yeah, they don't want little dogs running. Though I do train with a person who runs paps and his 9" pap jumps 12" just fine. But a corgi or a heavier short leg terrier night have a tough time.
 
Ken Tosh believes the ideal agility dog is a 19" dog. No they do not cater to small dogs. Susan Garrett has a good article posted about that today.
 
Am I reading this right? They're going to have 6 jump heights? This is going to screw my slow club, haha. Not really, they'll adjust.

I agree the 17.5" is weird, but I'm glad for the 18" height. The 6" difference was stupid. No clue where Koji, however at least I could possibly compete in Championship. He's at the cutoff, so I could see them requiring all necessary measurements.

As for the tourney, honestly, I could see Koji having more of a chance jumping 18", but lumped in with 22", versus running 22" and trying to place against BCs and Aussies.

I'm just glad USDAA listened and made changes for the safety of the dogs.

Looks like I should be getting a temp measuring card for Koji. Now the decision will be if I bother to remeasure him or not (y'know, since we're mostly retired).

ETA: I guess it doesn't matter at all to me...there are 3 USDAA trials in OR and WA through the end of the year. LOL! Nevermind.
 
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Unless I can get Trax re-measured at 17.5" it looks like this won't affect me :cry: I'll try to get him measured again just in case though.
 
I'm just glad they didn't increase the jump heights for anyone.
Also glad the 18 inchers weren't lumped in with 16 inchers.

Before the changes were announced there had much much talk by some that they wouldn't jump their dog at 22" as it was too high for their 16+" dog.
Now that USDAA has offered a handicap system so these dogs can compete but get the advantage of only having to jump 18" I still see a lot of complaints but now it's about what their chances are at winning... hmmm...
 
Sealtainn said:
I'm just glad they didn't increase the jump heights for anyone.
Also glad the 18 inchers weren't lumped in with 16 inchers.

Before the changes were announced there had much much talk by some that they wouldn't jump their dog at 22" as it was too high for their 16+" dog.
Now that USDAA has offered a handicap system so these dogs can compete but get the advantage of only having to jump 18" I still see a lot of complaints but now it's about what their chances are at winning... hmmm...
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Its about the same chances as running in Performance 16" which was nothing but Border Collies with a few overgrown Shelties(like Trax) thrown in the mix :wink2:
 
The point I was trying to make is the distinguishing between those who sought change in the pursuit of what's best for their dogs safety & long term health, which had appeared to be the face representing need for change, versus those that have exposed their real motivation, that being attempts through lobbying to shuffle the deck so to speak until they get cutoffs & jump heights that suit their primary interest to increase their chances of winning regardless off or secondary to the dogs best interests, which may indeed be to move to Performance.
For some it seems that Championship is the only thing they would consider.
That is a shame for the poor dogs in such circumstances.
 
I think the new jump height levels the playing field, and is much more fair to the 16.5" dogs (Starr is one). I disagreed with the Performance division being described as "pursuant to special standards of competition that place less emphasis on the dog's physical capabilities." My dog is in excellent physical condiiton - he doesn't need a lowered A-frame, extra time, or spread hurdles removed....he just needs a safe jump height. The 18" jump height is a height I would feel comfortable jumping him at.

I am so happy they've made this change - we will now be competing in USDAA!
 
I don't think it is because people want to *win* but as I understand it in tournament you have to be within the top certain percentage to qualify even. If you read Linda Mecklenbergs post where it is broken down by Dudley Fontaine on FB, you will see that the smaller dogs can not compete with the larger dogs times, which makes it less likely for them to be able to qualify even.
As I mentioned in my post here, my little 13" dog can't post the same sort of times as my leggy 16" dog. That could effectively keep her from qualifying in championship. My 16" dog can post times of up to 5 seconds better than my 12" dogs.
I was talking about it with a trainer in my area the other day, and she mentioned sometimes at smaller trials heights are already combined, and she winds up holding back her very fast BCs to try to even the playing field and allow people from the lower height to compete as they can't post the times needed. She said she really holds their contacts or puts them in a down at times to allow them to qualify.
 
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