What do you do to train for agility?

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I've seen sub-30 second times in Ex JWW. It's been done. Heck, I've run 30-second JWW courses, and no, I still don't win. lol. Those are when I've seen sub-30 times. Crazy fast courses, but fun!

I have seen Rush run JWW in 22 and Shadow 23 and change.
 
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I have seen Rush run JWW in 22 and Shadow 23 and change.

I re-track that statement Rush 21 and Shadow 22 and 23 seconds.There is no way a dog is going to run a Standard in 30 flat unless it has less obstacles or some venue like TDAA .Yes, they can run it in 36 and change .In USDAA a jumpers run with no weaves you will get a nice time because there are no weaves.
 
That is great time but were there weaves in the jumpers course?

Why does this matter? AKC is the only venue that includes weaves in its Jumpers course.

In every other venue Jumpers is limited to Jumps and Tunnels. That being the case, to compare an AAC Masters Jumpers course with an AKC JWW course is like comparing apples and oranges. You'd probably get a better comparison on an Agility Association of Canada Master's level Jumpers course with a USDAA Master Jumpers course.

And, honestly, USDAA and it's Jumpers (without weaves) is an older Agility program than AKC's and is what the majority of agility organizations out there are based around; making USDAA more the standard for what a Jumpers course should look like than AKC and it's JWW variant.

But, that's just my opinion. I just think if you are looking to determine whether or not the time mentioned (15 - 30 seconds) is doable, the comparison should be apples to apples, not apples to oranges.
 
Because weaves significantly slow down a course, even for the super fast dogs, therefore saying that you can run a course in 15 seconds just isn't isn't probable in some venues.

Why does this matter? AKC is the only venue that includes weaves in its Jumpers course.

In every other venue Jumpers is limited to Jumps and Tunnels. That being the case, to compare an AAC Masters Jumpers course with an AKC JWW course is like comparing apples and oranges. You'd probably get a better comparison on an Agility Association of Canada Master's level Jumpers course with a USDAA Master Jumpers course.

And, honestly, USDAA and it's Jumpers (without weaves) is an older Agility program than AKC's and is what the majority of agility organizations out there are based around; making USDAA more the standard for what a Jumpers course should look like than AKC and it's JWW variant.

But, that's just my opinion. I just think if you are looking to determine whether or not the time mentioned (15 - 30 seconds) is doable, the comparison should be apples to apples, not apples to oranges.
 
Because weaves significantly slow down a course, even for the super fast dogs, therefore saying that you can run a course in 15 seconds just isn't isn't probable in some venues.

So I guess the question should go back to Sealtainn then....those 15-30 second runs, are they JWW or not?

And honestly, does it matter what they're running? This thread is about what you do before your runs. Koji's had a 14 second run. It doesn't matter what venue/game, since this thread isnt' about that. It's about what I did before the run.

If everyone wants to compare their speeds, we could just post a thread about that and list the venue's and top speed in every game (e.g. AKC JWW, USDAA Jumpers, CPE Jumpers, NADAC Jumpers, etc). I would say that's a better comparison, although knowing we all run different courses makes a difference too. So in actuality, you'd have to compare venue/games/and average yps for a real comparison.

Maybe that's what we should start. That way, no one is disbelieving a time, because you may run mostly AKC that has weaves, whereas others run the venues that don't have weaves.

Yup, I think I'll go do that. Then we can all kinda compare where our dogs are at.
 
And honestly, does it matter what they're running? This thread is about what you do before your runs. Koji's had a 14 second run. It doesn't matter what venue/game, since this thread isnt' about that. It's about what I did before the run.

Yeah, I think my original response got this thread off track, that wasn't my intent & so I apologize.
Quoting 15-30 was just a generalization of the typical range of times, not any particular course: and it was intended to refer to how little time is spent running in the ring & so my prep. time is & was stated as me doing nothing.

Some courses can encourage high speed & others require significant technical control, or a combo of both so times do vary.
We have good runs & bad runs just like everyone else, but if I did train to prepare then I would likely hurt myself, so I don't :) LOL!
 
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