Worried... :cry:

Gah, that is reminiscent of our dog with the kidney issues, though she was younger. Stop with the "dental" food, there isn't enough animal protein to sustain a carnivore for long. Those foods are not designed to be life-long foods.

Brewers Rice, Whole Grain Corn, Chicken By-Product Meal, Powdered Cellulose (sawdust), Pork Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Soybean Mill Run...

Your dog needs animal protein. First, get the bloodwork done, and while you are waiting, order Lew Olson's book "Raw and Natural Nutrition for Dogs", and read up on proper carnivore diets.

Rice and boiled chicken is fine for now (raw chicken is OK too), beef heart is another good meat, as is tripe if you can get it.

FWIW, I feed between 5 and 7 every evening (a single meal for the day), and my Collie pukes up bile at 5:30 if she isn't fed. Won't kill her, but she makes the funniest faces while she's at it. :ick
 
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ClantyreSheltie said:
Gah, that is reminiscent of our dog with the kidney issues, though she was younger. Stop with the "dental" food, there isn't enough animal protein to sustain a carnivore for long. Those foods are not designed to be life-long foods.

Brewers Rice, Whole Grain Corn, Chicken By-Product Meal, Powdered Cellulose (sawdust), Pork Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Soybean Mill Run...

Your dog needs animal protein. First, get the bloodwork done, and while you are waiting, order Lew Olson's book "Raw and Natural Nutrition for Dogs", and read up on proper carnivore diets.

Rice and boiled chicken is fine for now (raw chicken is OK too), beef heart is another good meat, as is tripe if you can get it.

FWIW, I feed between 5 and 7 every evening (a single meal for the day), and my Collie pukes up bile at 5:30 if she isn't fed. Won't kill her, but she makes the funniest faces while she's at it. :ick
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You would think that the prescription food, only available through the vet, would be the best for your dog!!! obviously not the case!!!

I have a stool sample and will try to obtain a urine sample as well ! Although he ate the rice last evening and it seems to have gone down okay, I think I will bring the samples today for testing and not wait until Monday. If I can get him in I will as he still seems low and always seems to lay in the prayer position 95% of the time. Which perhaps indicates some discomfort for him.

By the way I feed Blaze once a day at about the same time between 5pm and 7pm. He takes his time and has never been a gluten about his food. Cheese and toast on the other hand..:biggrin2:
 
We have always fed Mally twice a day. (the whole amount split in half two times a day) Mally is a full grown sheltie (7 yrs. old.) He eats 1/2 cup kibble in the am and 1/2 cup kibble in the pm. He is 100% ready to eat both times a day, given the smaller amounts twice.

Just a thought, but maybe splitting his food up twice would help his stomach. (then there isn't all that much to eat both times)

ps I, too, would change his food brand when he gets to eating regular food again.

pps Blaze is in my prayers to get better. Please continue to update us on him, when you can. Thanks.
 
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fondofshelties said:
You would think that the prescription food, only available through the vet, would be the best for your dog!!! obviously not the case!!!

I have a stool sample and will try to obtain a urine sample as well ! Although he ate the rice last evening and it seems to have gone down okay, I think I will bring the samples today for testing and not wait until Monday. If I can get him in I will as he still seems low and always seems to lay in the prayer position 95% of the time. Which perhaps indicates some discomfort for him.

By the way I feed Blaze once a day at about the same time between 5pm and 7pm. He takes his time and has never been a gluten about his food. Cheese and toast on the other hand..:biggrin2:
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you would think what they want you to think:rolleyes2:
Second vote for the Lew Olson book, great way to start. Kibble is McDonald's of the doggie world some more "designer" than other. Not saying that everyone should feed raw just people should be aware and critical towards all those ads trying to tell us newest and finest:ick
 
fondofshelties said:
You would think that the prescription food, only available through the vet, would be the best for your dog!!! obviously not the case!!!
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No, and what will make you even madder is that the cost to make that food is pennies per pound (sawdust is cheap!), but they charge you what? $2.50 to $3 a pound for it? (I think the veterinary cut of that is minimal, it's the manufacturer that is raking it in) For that kind of money, you can get really good kibble with meat in it, or feed your dog actual meat :smile2:

If your dog has an acute, "need to fix it now" kind of issue, I can almost see using those foods. But not over the long-term. "Dental" and "Weight-Control" are not acute issues like a kidney or liver problem. And we know enough about their diets now that we can easily feed fresh, whole foods without worrying about killing the dogs.
 
I bought the Lew Olson book on Rachel's recommendation and adjusted one of the recipes in it for Liam. He could not tolerate any canned food or kibble after his abdominal surgery - in fact, he was starting to fail again and I thought I would lose him. After a few weeks (I think about 6 weeks or so) on the raw diet, he rejected it in favour of the Summit Holistic I have them on. He has been fine since then. His system needed a break from the processed food and additives.

I would recommend the book.
 
Veterinary Visit.

Blaze and I just came back from the Vet; I couldn't wait until Monday.

After a full examination, without the urine, stool and blood tests back, it is looking more and more like a sensitive tummy; they gave me meds and food to treat Blaze until his stomach settles (will list below) and when it does I think I will start doing the "real food" diet for him; after all the comments there seems to be a majority of those in favor of the "natural diet".

- Cerenia (for 4 days) to be followed one hour later by
- Sulcrate (for 8 days) (looks like pepto bismol only white)
- Antibiotics Baytril (2 hours after the Sulcrate.)

They also provided 2 cans of food: Medi-Cal Gastro intestinal accompanied by the dry which should be combined with the last half of the second can.

We will see how this goes; and will let you all know about the results of the blood work etc.
 
Photo's posted in "Say Hello" section of Forum

For those who don't visit the "say Hello" section too much here are photos of my Blaze..

The Patio shot is when he was 1 year old....the second "full of snow" was last year in December.

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Blazesnow.jpg
 
Blaze is so breathtakingly beautiful! I know you'll be able to manage this delicate tummy. :yes:
 
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