11 Month Pup won't pee/poop on walks

GoldenCharlie

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Hi All,

First of all, sorry for any bad spelling, English is not my main language.

My wife and I, are the happy "father" of an 11 month old Sheltie, by the name Charlie.

We have had alot of trouble getting hime to pee/poop "correctly". It was not until he was 6 months old, we got him to do it outside. Until that time, he insisted on doing it inside the house.

It was not because of bladder control. When he was 4-5 months old, he would hold his pee/poop for several hours while outside, just to go immediately when he was inside. Only room that was sacred was our bedroom. He would hold all night, and then pee right outside the door when we woke up. (he sleeps with us in the bedroom)

Eventually we got him to do it outside, and now he considers our entire house as his "base" and will not pee inside unless it is a mistake.

But our concerns are that he will ONLY pee/poop in our backyard. He will not poop/pee when going for a walk. I have him with me to Work almost every day. He will hold his pee/poop for 8-10 hours during my workday, so he can go when he gets home to his backyard. No matter how much i walk him, he simply refuses to go.

We have been told that Shelties in general have a hard time learning to become "house-clean", but this seems very extreme to me ? Should an 11 month Sheltie not be able to have a more sensible angle on peeing and pooping ?

I really hope there are some Experts in here who can either give us some advice, or tell us not to worry ?
 
Hi Charlie's dad. Your problem isn't strange at all, I had the same problem with my male and I know the same question has been asked in the forum before.

The problem is, dog's generalise - you don't toilet anywhere else but home (as far as he can tell), so he thinks toileting is only done at home.

The best solution is to show him other dogs toileting outside. Dogs learn best from other dogs. He's probably not lifting his leg to mark either, something else he will learn from other dogs.

The easiest way is to go for a walk with another dog as he will be watching that dog closely. Otherwise go to a local park or somewhere you'll see lots of dogs and let him watch. When a dog pees be excited about it, take him over to where another dog has peed and let him sniff it.

Of course if there are no other dogs around and you go bushwalking with him - well you could always teach him yourself:wink2:
 
Of course if there are no other dogs around and you go bushwalking with him - well you could always teach him yourself:wink2:
I hadn't thought of that one!
Seems like a lot of shelties have this issue. Bonnie was the same. I think visiting other dogs yards or walking with them is a good idea. Bonnie also broke her 'only pee at home rule' at the dog training ground and then the dog park so going places where she could sniff and get the idea it was okay to go elsewhere helped. I also took her to my grandparents over night and took her out regularly to their backyard so in the end she couldn't hold it long enough and had to get over it!
 
Hollie was very picky too. When we would go camping it would take forever until she would go and it had to be the perfect spot. Had to have grass.

Shelby is the opposite. She will go anywhere outside. She doesn't care. She is also the first female I have ever had that marks. She pees everywhere on our walks!
 
Phew.. i am happy to hear this is not abnormal. :) ... And thanks for the advice to let him learn from other dogs. We do have several dogs within our immediate family, so it should be possible to arrange some walking dates.

Thanks!
 
Hello, I had the same problem with Merlin. I knew I would have to get passed it as I would be taking Merlin to all day shows where he would need to pee or poo at some point.

My trainer explained it can be under confidence and the dog wanting to avoid putting himself in a vulnerable position while out. She suggested taking a 'sample' out on walks to attract to a spot to toilet, and she also suggested I 'demonstrate' if I could! :lol:

In the end Merlin began marking and the problem went away. Now I have the reverse as he loves to mark everything and prove he is there. Be careful what you wish for, I suppose...

Ps. Your English is very good:wink2:
 
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