After meal problem

That is absolutely fine, if it works for you.
BTW, how many of you out there that use crates, find that if you leave the door open, your dogs go in to it to nap?
 
Mine will do that, and they also happily run to their crates at meal time. All I have to do is place bowls in and shut the crates until they're finished eating.
 
Mine go in their crates all the time, its a way for them to rest and know they wont be bothered. I actually have one cat too that I will catch atleast once a day in one of the dogs crates napping away.
 
As to the crate issue, we do not and never will condone their use. I don't care what "evidence" is brought forth, we feel that these are simply a way for dog owners to "store" their dogs for whatever reason. Please don't turn this thread into a "crating good or bad" thread. I really don't want to turn this into an argument as we won't be convinced otherwise.

Scott,
If you are going to ask us for advice, you are going to get our advice. That may not be the advice you want. That does not make the advice any less valid or effective because you don't like it. You, of course, are free to ignore it. But having asked the question, you cannot dictate to the members what they may or may not respond to or post -- you have already opened the door.

I hope that you are able to resolve your issues with the girls. Clearly, some sort of long term supervision or separation at meal times is going to be a necessity. I'm sure you will find a solution, and we'd love to hear about it when you do. Good luck.
 
That is absolutely fine, if it works for you.
BTW, how many of you out there that use crates, find that if you leave the door open, your dogs go in to it to nap?

Earnhardt also was fed in his crate with the door open,when he was a pup.

We crate here,always have,and always will. Earnhardt was crated till just when he came home from being neutered,and he was almost a year old. He loved his crate..and was kinda lost without it when we decided we knew he could be trusted at night to nest in for the night.

Not that he would potty,heaven forbid,cause he was housetrained very early in life,but he was a chewer of anything in his path~

Trapp was also fed in his crate,right up until we had gulping issues,and his meals were not settling well,so we resorted to other slow feed methods.

Trapps crate is in the center of the house,in the kitchen,where I spend a great deal of time,he loves his crate and often goes in to take naps on his own.

Since he has gotton to be a real cuddle bug at night,and sleeps thru the night,he loves to sleep on the bed,and we have no issues,but there are times,that he also sleeps the night in his crate,especially so,if he falls asleep in there,and its late,I leave him in there.

Is it a place I use for "storage" of my dog because I can't be bothered,or I feel the need to be alone,of course not.I want my dogs around me all the time.

The only time,that I have found out that we truely felt the crate was nessassary,was when my son visits with his two "lovely" chihuahuas and I say that cause I really do love the little buggers. Really I do!!

But Trapp & Lexie,are constantly running,playing,barking,it just wears us out...so yes it is used to keep them at bay,so we can at least have a civil conversation here,and Trapp is quite happy that he has his own space,to be away from the little yappy "lovely" chihuahua.

We have worked now for weeks,with both dogs eating side by side,we have had tremendous luck,with no wandering,(on Trapp's part) they eat quietly,when one finishes before the other,they are absolutely made to sit quietly,or go in the other room.

They are not released to eat until I say so.There is no barking (again this is Trapp) food does not get put in his dish,unless he is quiet. There is no jumping,or I quit measuring food,until the noise & nonesense stops.

Earnhardt is not food agressive,never has been,I posted a video on Youtube back just last week on the improvement of Trapps manners,both boys are eating side by side.

We certainly would not want you to be upset with us here on the forum.Many of us have had dogs in our lives for many years,and I'm sure you are not new to dog ownership.

Ultimately it is your decision as to what you feel works best for you,in your givin enviorment.

Us personally,we have had as many as 7-9 dogs her in foster,and about 95% of them were big dogs upwards of 70 plus pounds. Dogs need to own place,they are den animals,and are quite content knowing they have thir own psace to call thier own.
 
Scott,
If you are going to ask us for advice, you are going to get our advice. That may not be the advice you want. That does not make the advice any less valid or effective because you don't like it. You, of course, are free to ignore it. But having asked the question, you cannot dictate to the members what they may or may not respond to or post -- you have already opened the door.

I hope that you are able to resolve your issues with the girls. Clearly, some sort of long term supervision or separation at meal times is going to be a necessity. I'm sure you will find a solution, and we'd love to hear about it when you do. Good luck.

I said in an earlier post that crates were not an option because we didn't have the room. I tried to stay away from posting our dislike of them as I didn't want this kind of reaction from the members here. Thus I didn't find it helpful the suggestion to get some. I never asked anyone's opinion on crates so I don't see why I would want to entertain any suggestions concerning them. And to tell you the truth I was a bit insulted by missjennygirls first sentence. I have plenty of common sense and have been a loving dog owner for over 35 yrs now. Both of the dogs have beds that are strictly theirs and this is their safe spot. And they both use them to their fullest. I am just running into a wall with the girls on this problem.

Thanks again.
 
It would be interesting to know what you dislike against crate training.

Personally, I don't crate my dogs anymore unless I need to...and that is rare. But the crates are there, and both my boys are comfortable going in on their own. It's their space. The fact that they are crate trained is that if for some reason I need to crate them, I can and they'll be cool with it.

We really do welcome all viewpoints, and sometimes we have to agree to disagree. But it does ultimately provide for a balanced forum, if everyone here feels comfortable in speaking their minds. And it serves noone if you are less than truthful or defensive.
 
Crating or not crating is certainly an individual decision.

Now back to your original question.
If the girls have suddenly increased the aggression; ask yourself: what has changed in the house. It could be something subtle to you; or seem unrelated. Think: rearrangement of furniture, new toy, increased stress due to change in jobs, new food...ANYTHING. We had aggression issues here for a while after Angus was neutered; and it certainly took supervision, redirection, and a rechannelling our OUR frustrations to get things back on an even keel. You might try adding something that is soothing for YOU into the mealtime (favorite music, candle, beverage, etc) so that you are looking forward to their meals. A short walk in tandem immediately before and after the meal might also help "reset" their energies.

Good luck with your girls! I know the stress and heartache of trying to fix a behavior problem in shelties that HAD been getting along.
 
That is absolutely fine, if it works for you.
BTW, how many of you out there that use crates, find that if you leave the door open, your dogs go in to it to nap?

I have 2 of my kids that will come and go from their crate all day long. They also will drag their food bowl in the crate and lay down and eat in peace and quiet. They also will carry their personal items such as favorite toys bones ect for safe keeping from the other 2....I even found a few things of mine Sweetie has become fond of...lol....I never us the crate for bad. Its their safe haven...and their own space when things are hectic.
 
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