BARKING sheltie pup!

thank you for the input! you guys are wonderful... we are considering a vibration collar. i guess we'll see if that helps.... haha.

I've never tried them but I wouldn't go that route. I have heard too many things like this will make the problem worse and I really feel Shelties are too sensitive to use these types of collars. You may really damage her spirit and than you have another issue. A frightened dog who barks alot.
 
I think there is a difference between startling and attention getting. Using a whistle to make a chirp noise will draw five cocked-sideways heads in my house. None of them are spooked or startled, they just want to know what that noise is. We aren't talking about blowing it until the dog cries "uncle". Herding whistles are perfect for this.

With that said, it's something that has to be faded, because you aren't going to carry I around all the time. Like my dog maturing into responding to just "Miss Liesl".
 
lol dont know honestly how well a whistle will work...ive never used one or had one, but for some reason when the dogs hear it on TV it causes mass barking here...lol so I doubt id get the reaction id be looking for!:lol:

If its really stressing you out, which is stressing her out and youve tried everything its prob best for everyone in the end to spend the money and the quick recovery time (as much as a teeth cleaning) and just do the bark softening..
 
How much exercise is the puppy getting? I don't mean throwing a ball over and over again as that in itself can cause overexcitement. I mean putting on a lead and going out for an hour, asking for sits occasionally or other reinforced commands. My daughter's sheltie was a "talker" for her first year plus. She drove everyone nuts. Now they live in an apartment. She still barks occasionally, usually when she is playing but it isn't incessant anymore. She also was taught to "bark softly". She goes for a walk before daughter goes to work, at lunch with the pet walker and again for a bush walk after work. She's a high drive dog and needs to wear it off.
 
lol dont know honestly how well a whistle will work...ive never used one or had one, but for some reason when the dogs hear it on TV it causes mass barking here...lol so I doubt id get the reaction id be looking for!:lol:

The herding whistles have quite the range of noise that they can make, obviously, since they have to give more than one direction to the dog using it. The learning curve on a herding whistle is pretty steep though, some people never get it. I have a plastic one and a sterling silver one (yummy), and they make very different tones, and the silver one is way easier to work.
 
A whistle would cause them to stop because they'd want the loud noise to stop, same thing with a collar causing discomfort and wanting to stop. It isn't really doing much to teach the pup is my problem with those methods.

Clarification: I meant use a referee whistle to interrupt an unwanted behavior, and immediately after the unwanted behavior has stopped, reinforce it with a command.
 
here is another way ...check it out, you can go to Eileen's blog and chat with her, she might give you suggestions:wink2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7DagsIUvE[/QUOTveE]

That's an excellent video and extremely helpful! Thanks for sharing that.

Personally, I believe that a combination of both positive and negative reinforcement is the only way for dealing with a real problem dog. It's up to the individual to decide how much of it is a problem.
 
I am just wondering why people are against a vibrating collar? After all they are used alot for dogs that are deaf, to get their attention. So why cant the same princaple hold for a hearing dog? :hide
 
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