Bedtime...so tired!

At 12 weeks its still pretty hard for them to hold on. I used to get up once during the night for a long time (usually 2am) - that way they knew they would get toileted at a certain time every night and would hold on until then. Perhaps you can institute a regular time to take her out once each night so she gets used to it.

Tully needed to go during the nights until she was 2 years old and even now, if I sleep in she will need to go. She is a little girl with a little bladder. I put a puppy pad in the garage, altho used kitty litter with fake grass on it until recently, so she could toilet herself. Can you give her a puppy pud to use during the night? Either in her crate or leave the crate door open and put a puppy fence around it and a puppy pad.
 
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When Keely came home (at 8 weeks) she wsa sleeping through the night. But about 3 1\2 months or so she started this whining at 12 or 1 to go out. I tried ignoring it: NOT! Did not work. So I got up let her out to pee however when she come in she did NOT go back to the crate in our room. She went to the crate in our living room (alone!). This happened 3 times and never again. However, I did start walking or excercising her regularly at 6 or 6:30 (about the sametime every night). After that I would offer her the final drink for the night about 7 or 7:30. She would play until bedtime with toys or chewys. She would not sleep. About 9 or 9:30 it was out to pee one more time and we all went to bed about 9:30 or 10. After those 3 days of sleeping alone she never really pulled the midnight pee fest again. (Now that she is 10 months she better not start either!) Good luck
 
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Thanks again everyone for the great tips! Yesterday I took Bentley and Lexi to the agility field and just let them run around for about an hour. When we got back, I only let Lexi take a little nap.

We put her in her crate in the living room (not the bedroom) when she started to get tired last night. I was afraid that she would cry and I would feel bad, but she didn't whine at all. We did take her out at 2 a.m. just to be safe, but she came in and went back to sleep.

Not to say that our problems have been completely fixed, but I think we're on the right track! Thanks again!
 
Thanks again everyone for the great tips! Yesterday I took Bentley and Lexi to the agility field and just let them run around for about an hour. When we got back, I only let Lexi take a little nap

We put her in her crate in the living room (not the bedroom) when she started to get tired last night. I was afraid that she would cry and I would feel bad, but she didn't whine at all. We did take her out at 2 a.m. just to be safe, but she came in and went back to sleep.

Not to say that our problems have been completely fixed, but I think we're on the right track! Thanks again!

I know Lexi and Kai'a are really close in age, (Kai'a is 11 weeks) and we are going through a lot of the same things right now.

The advice given was great! Basically what I am doing is getting Kai'a good and tired before bed, giving her the last potty at 10 or 10:30 and then up into the crate in our room. So far she might whine a bit at first or let out a short bark or yip, but she quiets down really quickly. The first night she had an accident in her crate but after that we haven't had a problem. I take her out at about 3 or 3:30 every night. When she hits 12 weeks I plan on moving it to 4 am for a week, then 5 am for the next, and then she will, hopefully, just sleep until we get her up at 6 for breakfast and a morning walk. Phasing out the early morning potty I think will work for us instead of just stopping all at once.

We are also teaching her "no bark", "settle" and "quiet" and it seems to be working well, but if you give in a get up and get her out when she starts, you have lost most of the battle; she will do it constantly thinking that if she barks long enough or loud enough you will get up. We use "Settle" whe she is in her crate and she starts to get agitated or whiney. It lets her know that we think it's quiet time and then when she is in her crate (no matter what time it is) and being quiet, we tell her "good settle" and treat her or give her praise. She responds best to the "settle" command better than the other 2, but we are working on them all. :smile2:

I wanted to put in my 2 cents about the walks and the treating; This is what we have been doing since she arrived:

As for the leash and walking. I let Kai'a run around, supervised, with the lead on her for about 30 minutes a day. I also attach the lead to my belt loop and walk around the kitchen, living room, (her accessible areas) with her while doing chores and things. This had gotten her used to walking with me. (I say that too, "Walk with me Kai'a" and that gets her attention and she moves with me fluidly.) I also treat at times when I say that and she follows without me having to pull or suggest. Then I started with the "mini" walks on the lead. First the end of the lawn, then the end of the sidewalk, then to the front gate, then the yard, the mailbox, the next door neighbors driveway, two houses down, across the street, etc. Each day I would go a little further with her, letting her stop, stall, sniff, get used to the sounds, the area. Finally a few days ago when we went out to the end of the block, she was walking with me, not stopping to sniff everything and she herself pulled us on, not wanting to stop. We were able to continue on to circle the entire block!!!

I was really amazed. Yes, I still have to use "Walk with me" and prompt her to move and follow, but overall we walk nicely, with leash behavior that is acceptable for her age. I don't have to treat more than once or twice a walk, and it is usually for good behavior and her listening to me, stopping ans sitting when I ask, etc. The other day however, a HUGE dog ran out to her gate and started barking at Kai'a from about 3 feet away. I had no idea this home had a dog and Kai'a lost it. She ran under my legs and peed all over herself and me. Shaking and crying, it was so difficult to get her home. She did not want to walk as EVERYTHING now scared her, but I didn't want to pick her up and reward the fear behavior. It took us 40 minutes to get back home and since then she is not as keen to go out and walk, especially anywhere near the street with the dog (which I now avoid).

But that is my leash and walking advice. I know our girls are so close in age that it is nice to be able to see and watch them go through these things together. :winkgrin: Hope you start getting more sleep!!!

Jenny
 
Sorry to hear of Kai's bad experience. When Tully was attacked, to get her on walks again I took a ball and we did a short walk, then I threw the ball, then walk then ball. Its a great distraction and made going on walks fun (and turned her into a ball nutter).

With the sniffing, dont discourage it too much as it also helps stimulate them and tire them out. Females dont tend to sniff too much anyway, but sniffing actually uses their intelligence - they are analysing the smell, where it came from, what it ate for breakfast, who was there yesterday, the day before and the week before (dogs smell in layers). It also helps them get to know other neighbourhood dogs without having to meet them.
 
Zak is two weeks older than Lexi and Kai'a and he has done so well at night time. The first week he cried two night when first crated him and then he woke up twice that week. Now he sleeps through the night for most nights. He may have one night a week where he wakes us up around 5:30 or so.

Today we actually slept in till 7:15 and not a peep from him.
I do not take him where other dogs have been yet since has not had all his shots. We do have a large fenced in back yard and Maggie is so good at playing with him and they tire each other out.

I did use a flexi leash on him tonight so he would not eat the mulch and he did really well on it. I have been putting a leash on him to drag around the house for a short time and he is getting better with it. Working on car rides and trimming the nails, the nail thing is torture to him.
He has learned sit and does that very well for his age, I think he is going to be a very smart boy.
 
I love hearing about everyone's experiences with pups the same age(ish) as Lexi. I think we're a bit behind as far as leash training goes, and Jenny I will definitely use your advice to help her get more comfortable with the leash. I think I tied to make too big of a jump. We went from letting her drag around the leash to hoping she would walk around the block. I love the idea of having her follow me, and then the leash around the house.

Sumac, you are so lucky that Zak sleeps so well! The past two nights Lexi hasn't gotten up until 5:30 and we've been so thankful. Of course, we have an early riser with Bentley, who is up at 6:30 pretty much no matter what.

Lexi also knows how to sit. I couldn't believe how quickly she learned it. I think she learned it after about 15 tries. Shelties are SO smart.
 
I love hearing about everyone's experiences with pups the same age(ish) as Lexi. I think we're a bit behind as far as leash training goes, and Jenny I will definitely use your advice to help her get more comfortable with the leash. I think I tied to make too big of a jump. We went from letting her drag around the leash to hoping she would walk around the block. I love the idea of having her follow me, and then the leash around the house.

Sumac, you are so lucky that Zak sleeps so well! The past two nights Lexi hasn't gotten up until 5:30 and we've been so thankful. Of course, we have an early riser with Bentley, who is up at 6:30 pretty much no matter what.

Lexi also knows how to sit. I couldn't believe how quickly she learned it. I think she learned it after about 15 tries. Shelties are SO smart.

Ashley, I am happy to hear you guys are getting a little more sleep. Hope it continues. When was Lexi born? Just curious about her birthday?

Have you read the Monks, Art of Raising a Puppy? We got most of the lead introduction and foundation from that book. It's an excellent book and not only does it help you with all aspects of training it also helps you understand your puppy, talking to them and working with their needs. It helps you understand them and most importantly understand how to make them part of your Pack - and you part of theirs. It a unique look at puppy training, or as I like to call it, puppy understanding and it's approach is practical, accessible and puppy loving (which is the best!!!).

Hoping you're off to the start of a great week!!!

Jenny
 
I love hearing about everyone's experiences with pups the same age(ish) as Lexi. I think we're a bit behind as far as leash training goes, and Jenny I will definitely use your advice to help her get more comfortable with the leash. I think I tied to make too big of a jump. We went from letting her drag around the leash to hoping she would walk around the block. I love the idea of having her follow me, and then the leash around the house.

Sumac, you are so lucky that Zak sleeps so well! The past two nights Lexi hasn't gotten up until 5:30 and we've been so thankful. Of course, we have an early riser with Bentley, who is up at 6:30 pretty much no matter what.

Lexi also knows how to sit. I couldn't believe how quickly she learned it. I think she learned it after about 15 tries. Shelties are SO smart.

Glad you have got a bit more rest. I know for a few weeks after Trapp came home,I was not used to getting up in the middle of the night.Let alone getting up at 4-5 am..it just about sent me into a tail spin. Thank goodness Brian took over on nights he was home.
One of my biggest problems was,I take medicine at night(what I do take is all at night) and I honestly some nights do not know how I motivated to get out of bed,go outside,and stand there while he did his thing.
Hope things continue well,and she gets into a nice routine for you~
 
Trevor has been such a good boy. Midnight to 8AM without a peep. Only once did he whine/bark in the middle of the night and it was because it was our fault.
 
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