Can you tell I am NOT a big fan of that crowd in my area 
so at some local dog events where they have rescued racing greyhounds available for adoption, the greyhound rescue people are always telling people that the greyhounds can't sit. I have just looked at them like they were a little off. the teaching the dogs not to sit for racing makes more sense than that they can't physically sit. they should explain better
YES we all have our own spin on it, the thing is that you can NOT do any harm
I really don't know why more people don't try it! I think the media and the 'dominance theory' lobby really just haven't caught up yet
I am frustrated sometimes when trainers in classes don't even TRY to use it, or mention it to people who may want to try it! Yet they critique it to the point of belittling it, but have NEVER experienced or tried it ... the kind of trainers that don't allow you to bring in food to class and want you to correct the behaviour by using a choke chain... oh and think everything a little pup does is awful since it means he is trying to be the boss of you *sigh*
lolI don't want to try it- but at the same time I would think that a good trainer would be open to learning it and suggesting it-shouldn't good trainers be willing to learn several methods anyways? Especially if their traditional method is not working with a certain person and their dog? Personally I just don't find it necessary for what I want to do with Sandstorm. I want him to come when called, stay when told to, and know the word NO. The only thing he does that bothers me is barking at silliy things- the sliding door opening, my blow-dryer, the vacuum cleaner, the television (especially baseball), etc. I have tried NO- doesn't work too well, I have tried "owning the T.V." method, I am not going to stand infront of the T.V. when I want to watch it !!! Water in the face does nothing, he likes it.
Other than that, Sandstorm listens very well. So the only problem we have is a barking sheltie. Oh, he doesn't like the neighbors- he growls at them, fine, we don't like them either.
Karen
I don't want to try it- but at the same time I would think that a good trainer would be open to learning it and suggesting it-shouldn't good trainers be willing to learn several methods anyways? Especially if their traditional method is not working with a certain person and their dog? Personally I just don't find it necessary for what I want to do with Sandstorm. I want him to come when called, stay when told to, and know the word NO. The only thing he does that bothers me is barking at silliy things- the sliding door opening, my blow-dryer, the vacuum cleaner, the television (especially baseball), etc. I have tried NO- doesn't work too well, I have tried "owning the T.V." method
Other than that, Sandstorm listens very well. So the only problem we have is a barking sheltie. Oh, he doesn't like the neighbors- he growls at them, fine, we don't like them either.
Karen
... there is ONE neighbour that Toffee ALWAYS barks at (but stops if told to settle down.. getting the last huff and bark...) THat guy has never done a thing and has been living there across our yard since long before Toffee was born, I have NO idea why... BUT I don't like him much either, dunno why, hahaha
I would call the dog to me, and she would run right past me with her ears flopping behind her and a big smile on her face. 
We always found her in the middle of the road with her nose plastered to the yellow median line-running.LOLLL
oh the joys of a Beagle
Lol...when we first started researching breeds to find the best fit for us beagles were at the top of our list - they are just so adorable!!
But I am so glad we decided to go with a sheltie. Domino has a beagle friend and he just seems so determined not to listen!! I am so grateful to have a dog that is so easy to work with.
Shelties Rule!!
