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They are #5.... everyone knows poodles aren't dogsThat is very interesting to read. I thought they would be higher up on the list but 6 is not bad.

Had an Irish Setter years ago. Gorgeous dog, but dumber than a post.
:sadsmile: I wouldn't go that far.
Did anyone actually take the canine IQ into account when they decided on a Sheltie? I know I did. Of course, I did Dobies for years and insisted I wanted a "smart dog" again.
Had an Irish Setter years ago. Gorgeous dog, but dumber than a post. Loved him dearly, but he sure wasn't in the top ten!![]()
But if you train a Golden to do something one way thats what you get back.
That is the difference I like in the shelties.:sadsmile: I wouldn't go that far.