Diva's 2nd CDX leg

Could you explain the legs for me? I think CDx is Companion Dog title? Is each stage different?

In AKC, there are 3 levels-Novice, Open and Utility. In those levels there are A and B classes. A classes are for those dogs without titles except for Novice A which is for handlers who have never put an AKC obedience title on a dog. One dog in your lifetime. B classes are for dogs with the title for that class or untitled dogs owned by those people who have put an AKC OTCH on another dog. There are also alternate titling classes now Beginners Novice, Grad novice and Grad Open that started in the last few years. They are transition clases and are not required to advance to the next level but give those dogs who are not quite ready for Novice, Open or Utility something to work for while they get ready.

The titles are CD- companion dog earned with 3 legs in Novice
CDX-Companion dog excellent earned with 3 legs in Open
and UD-utility dog earned with 3 legs in Utility

After you earn your UD you can work on:
UDX utility dog excellent -earned by Q in both Open B and Utility B on the same trial/same trial 10x if you do it again then you add a number UDX2, UDX3 etc

OTCH Obedience trial champion -earned by earning 100 OTCH points which are based on # of dogs competing. 3 dogs must compete in Utility B to get pts and 6 dogs in Open B. 1st place gets points always if the minimum # in reached and usually 2nd place. Less commonly 3rd and 4th will earn points but the class must be quite large.(there is a chart) In addition to the points you must win 1 Open B class and 1 Utility B class and 1 additonal Open B or Utility B class. This is a very difficult title to earn and you are usually competing against other OTCH dog to do it.

OM and GOM(10x OM) titles Obedience Master and Grand Obedience Master -new titles as of a year or 2 ago- earned based off scores. You only get points for scores over 190.(again a chart). 40% need to be earned in Open , 40% in Utilty and 20% in either. Justice would have a OM4 if he was grandfather in.

A leg is a run of 170 out of 200 points with atleast 50% of the points earned in each exercise.

The exercise in Novice are (always in this order)
1. heeling and figure 8 on leash
2. stand for exam
3. heel free(no leash)
4. recall
5. 1 minute sit stay handler across the ring
6. 3 minute down stay handler across the ring

The exercises in Open are(B classes are mixed up in 6 different orders0
1.heeling and figure 8 off leash
2.drop on recall
3.retrieve on flat
4.retrieve over high jump
5. broadjump
6. 3 minute sit stay handler out of sight
7. 5 minute down stay handler out of sight

The exercises in Utility are(B classes are mixed up in 6 different patterns)
1. Singal exercise(heeling pattern ending with a stand, stay, handler going about 40 ft away, down,sit, come, finish all on hand signals only, no verbals commands allowed)
2. and 3. 2 Scent article retrieves(1 leather and 1 metal)
4. Glove retrieve(lineup of 3 gloves in straight line, start with your back to glove and pivot to the correct one, will be sent to retrieve any of one gloves(judge posts which one before start)
5. Moving stand for exam
6. Directed jumping(send dog 40 ft away between to jumps and tell them to sit and then direct them to the jump called(bar or high jump) by judge. repeat 2x)

There is also UKC obedience in the US too similar but with some differences and a couple different exercises. It is quite fun too.
 
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Thanks very much for posting the explanation Dr Shelli. It will make more sense to me now:wink2:
It sounds similar to Working Trials in many respects in the UK, as the titles CD and UD are the same, the word 'trial' and the jumping which is done in working trials but not in our obedience. However, even at CD level, the jumping (agility) section requires dogs to jump a 3ft clear, 6ft scale and 9ft long jump :eek2: which is rather off putting to many people.

It seems like you have the best mix of both. My personal opinion is that if our obedience in the UK was like AKC, it would drastically increase the number of people who participate as it is far more interesting.

As a comparison, these are the excersises for our obedience:

Pre Beginners (entry level):
Heel on lead
Heel off lead
Straight recall with a finish
1 min sit stay
2 min down stay }both with handler in sight

Beginners
As above with the addition of a dumbell retrieve

Novice
As Beginners but the heelwork is often a little harder

Class A
As Novice plus:
A Recall (handler calls dog while walking away and proceeds with heelwork)
2 min sit stay
5 min down stay (handler out of sight)
Scent (on cloths, handler's scent no decoy)
*No extra commands are permitted from this level up.*

Class B
As Class A but all heelwork is off lead and includes fast and slow pace, plus
Send away to a marker, drop and recall to handler on the move (heelwork)
Retrieve an article chosen by the judge
2 min sit
5 min down } handler out of sight
Scent (on cloths, handler's scent with one decoy)

Class C
As Class B but
Heelwork includes sit, stand and down where handler leaves dog in position, continues heelwork then returns
Distance Control (Similar to your Signal excersise)
Scent (on cloths, judge's scent with two decoy scent cloths)
Down stay increases to 10 mins (out of sight)

At any show you must enter for the lowest class for which you are eligible plus one other if desired. Progression is achieved by 'winning out'. Only one win in Pre Beginners is required, two in Beginners and Novice and 3 in the higher classes. Once a handler has 'won out' of the two beginner levels they can never again enter these classes, so with subsequent dogs they start at Novice level. Marks are given as points deducted, so the lower the score the better. However, it is down to the judge how marks are deducted, most make deductions in 1/2 marks but some deduct 1/4s or whole marks. So one week you might lose 8 and work really well, the next week lose 5 1/2 and be abysmal! Only for the stay excersises is there a standard allocation for deductions. To become a Champion a dog must have won out of all other levels and won and have at least 3 third places or above in Class C. They are then eligible for the Championship C class (only). Challenge Certificates are awarded to the seperate Dog and Bitch winners of this class and 3 such awards makes a Champion. Winning a CC entitles a dog to compete in the Obedience Championships at Crufts but almost without exception only border collies suceed at this level.

A further complication is that there are different types of shows, from limited (number or breed) to Championship. I have 'won out' of the beginner classes at Limited shows with Revel so Yogi has to start in Novice, but in Open shows we can still compete as beginners.

I found the requirement of progression by winning out was soul destroying as no matter how well you performed, unless you win, you cannot go further and the lower classes, being mainly heelwork are particuarly tedious. In addition, the level of presicion required even at the entry level is frankly absurd. Yogi's breeder was criticised for the dog's feet not being in line with the crease on her shoe for instance!!
Rally is just starting to take off over here now and I can see it rapidly becoming far more popular than obedience.

I'm sorry for hijacking your thread but thought it might make for an interesting comparison. Hopefully one day the UK will have something like AKC Obedience as it looks a great deal better:cool:

Wishing you the very best of luck for your next leg!!:biggrin2:
 
LOL, seashel, we now have the AKC International class and teamwork class to become more like UK obedience!
 
I found the requirement of progression by winning out was soul destroying as no matter how well you performed, unless you win, you cannot go further and the lower classes, being mainly heelwork are particuarly tedious. In addition, the level of presicion required even at the entry level is frankly absurd. Yogi's breeder was criticised for the dog's feet not being in line with the crease on her shoe for instance!!
Rally is just starting to take off over here now and I can see it rapidly becoming far more popular than obedience.

I'm sorry for hijacking your thread but thought it might make for an interesting comparison. Hopefully one day the UK will have something like AKC Obedience as it looks a great deal better:cool:

Wishing you the very best of luck for your next leg!!:biggrin2:

Thanks for the explaination of your obedience . The win out thing does sound like a big downer. I have become frustrated with pursuing Justice's OTCH because of the win thing. Justice has over half his OTCH points(53) and 4 wins in Utility B. In my area, there are 3 to 4 former world obedience members who show here regularly(I remember 1 year a few years back,out of the top 10 shelties in the country, 7 came for this area and that was just one breed) and some weekends there are 8 to 15 OTCH dogs competing. To place let alone win against that competition so often is discouraging. To get a 198.5 in Open B and not even place because the 1st-4th is 199 or better is insane. Happened to me more than once. Everything is half point deductions so a half point can be back feet not squared directly behind the front feet on a finish or a slight step out of heel position for a splint second.

I don't have the time in my life to train as much as some of those people to get that kind of perfection, not to mention money. Plus I have other interests in dogs. So I doubt I will ever finish an AKC OTCH though my dogs are capable. I mentioned Justice, but Ember is retried with 10 OTCH points, 1 NOI invite, an Open B win and an Utility B win.
 
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