Ears--gluing vs. taping

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Of course my sheltie's ears popped up after she lost her last puppy tooth and now I'm going to have to glue or tape them.

I have both glue (Tear Mender) and Japanese tape, but I am confused as to which I should do. Plus the tape looks like a whole lot more trouble. The thought of removing the hair from inside her ears scares me to death. She barely sits still when I trim between her paws.

Her ears are high on top of her head (as you can see from my avatar), are they supposed to be lower down on the sides?

I thought gluing would be easier, but if her ears are set too high, does the spacer in taping fix that?

I am confused as to what they should look like.
 
No, the set of her ears is fine. What you would be doing with tape or glue is working on getting them to tip. (You have me laughing, because "too high" is not something we try to correct!)

However, given her age and what I see in the picture, I don't think you're going to make a whole lot of headway. Plus, it sounds as if you haven't done anything with her ears for months. The problem with that is twofold: one, you have a decidedly pricked ear, and two, you have a puppy who (as you say) will not sit still for love or money while you work on her ears.

Part of what makes ear training "work" is that the puppies have their ears glued as soon as the ears can be pulled together (around five weeks) and taped as soon as they're big enough (around ten weeks). We do something with their ears week in, week out, every week, until they're a year old. This means that the ears are being trained, and that the puppy is being trained to let us mess with her ears.

OK, lecture over! Sorry about that. :wink2: I take it you aren't planning to show your puppy, so it's not the end of the world if her ears aren't perfect. For reference, here is a document that has some line drawings and discussion of heads. It will give you an idea of the ear you are looking for: 3/4s erect, placed high.

I strongly prefer tape over glue, because glue needs to be cut out (and then you lose hair) and because tapes give you much finer control. Yes, a full set of tapes and yarn is complicated. However, on your puppy, you wouldn't really need to set up a brace/full set. You'd just be working on the tips. I still prefer tape over glue for "rolling" pricky ears.

So here is what you do:

1. Assemble your supplies. You'll want cotton pads, rubbing alcohol, a small pair of scissors, and your Japanese tape. Make sure you have some kind of adhesive remover, too (though you won't be using that today).

2. Get your puppy relaxed and OK with you messing with her ears. Set her up on a grooming table or other place where she can't just leave, and play with her ears and give her cookies until she's starting to get the idea.

3. Clean the ear leather thoroughly. You don't have to remove any hair; her ears will be hairless enough inside. Wet a cotton pad with the alcohol and rub the inside of ear up from the head. You're removing any skin oils that would keep the tape from sticking. Let the alcohol dry, and give the puppy another cookie.

4. Cut your pieces. You're going to make two "back" pieces that will lay along the length of the ear. Your back pieces will be as long as the length of the ear from the nodule at the bottom to the start of the hair at the tip - maybe an inch, inch and a half. Eyeball it. Use your scissors to round off the top end of each piece.

5. Stick the back pieces into the clean, dry ears. The bottom, inside corner of each piece should be laid in right against the nodule on the inner-lower corner of each ear. Press it in from bottom to top with your thumbs.

6. Cut your "roll" pieces. These will tip the ears over. They'll each be about an inch long, to make a roll with the sticky side out. Not too big, not too small; again, you have to eyeball it for the individual dog.

7. Stick the roll pieces in, about 3/4s up the ear, and roll the tips down so they stick onto the tape. Don't fold the ear or pinch it; you can cut off circulation and kill the tip of the ear. Just roll them over and make sure they stick.

8. OK, you're done! You'll want to change the tapes about every week, to keep them fresh and to see what you have. When removing the tape, go gently, use plenty of adhesive remover, and only go from the bottom of the ear to the tip (tip-down can pull the skin right off).

That is how I would do it. You have other options, of course:

1. You can just take a gob of glue and stick it to the hair in front of the dog's ears and fold the ears over into it and hope for the best. But given the variables (age, and how pricked the ears are now), I think that if you're going to have any success trying to de-prick the ears, you're going to need to use tape.

2. You can find a Sheltie breeder in your area and have them see your puppy for regular "ear" appointments, and let them deal with the whole tape business.

3. You can just love your puppy the way she is, and never mind the ears! :smile2:
 
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Her ears were never glued, they were naturally tipped until about 3 weeks ago. She is 6 months old, we got her when she was 4 and a half months old.

I guess I was wondering if I can just tape her ears individually without messing with the part that holds them together, since her ears seem to be set well on her head.

I think if I put her on the grooming table, she will know I mean "business." Her breeder said she was fine on the grooming table. She doesn't really struggle a whole bunch, she just wants to gnaw on my hands when I clip the hair between her toes. I've been bad and acting like it's "playtime." She's too irresistible.

Sometimes one ear will still tip. I'm hoping it's not too late.
 
If her ears were tipped until recently, I think it's worth a try to continue to train them. It certainly can't hurt. Maybe it won't work, but if you're persistent and keep them in until she's at least a year it might.

Whether to use glue or tape comes down to personal preference, and what's easiest for you and your dog. I prefer glue to tape. I've never cut glue out...I remove it with Zoeze. A bit on a cotton pad held to the ear softens it so you can gently comb it out. I find the glue much easier to work with than tape, and for me, it holds longer. Here's the tutorial I used to learn how to do it. It's the best demonstration I've seen. You just have to be careful to glue *hair*, not skin. You can get the Zoeze from www.wicketsbymel.com.

http://wyndewayshetsheep.com/ears.htm
 
I guess I was wondering if I can just tape her ears individually without messing with the part that holds them together, since her ears seem to be set well on her head.

Yes, definitely - just roll them over with the tape, or glue them down.
 
Your question was taping vs. gluing....

Personally, I think gluing is easier if you aren't worried about conformation. If it works, then great! If it doesn't then you haven't tormented yourself and dog!

I prefer tipped ears so I would glue as long as possible. My tuppence worth
 
I'm going to try glue first--she has more hair in her ears than a 90-year old man. The tape seems a bit intimidating.

Thanks so much for all your suggestions. I feel better knowing that I don't have to do the bridge thing to keep her ears together. She IS cuter with her tipped ears--I miss them!
 
Good grief! I have no idea why I was so freaked out! She took the gluing like a champ. Her ears have a sort of crease from where they were tipped before, so it was easy to find the natural fold when I put slight pressure on the tops of her ears. Afterward, she kind of went berserk--nothing that a Bully stick couldn't cure... fingers crossed.
 
Here's Pippa is with her "new" glued ears. She has taken to it quite well. She has not taken to the fact that we have opened the pool and she is not allowed inside the fence (the second photo,was to irresistible not to post, she is playing "pathetic pup")--will have to teach her how to get out of the pool if she shows any interest in it.
 

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Good job! Pippa's ears look great. But geez, the poor deprived puppy....at the very least she needs a box of cookies for her exile from the pool! :lol:
 
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