Ears on top

Lightplum said:
Its honestly something that comes with practice. If you dont do it all the time it can be frustrating. I know it was 3 years almost between when i had done it last...I must have sworn I can tell you how many times for the first 2 or 3 ear gluings...but now I look back on it and am like why the heck was I having issues with it? The gluing and twisting method I just could not get right when they are tiny...I ended up using the Japenese tape method and it works wonders...I can email you the directions if youd like. and as their head/ears grow the glue method is easier...I find it too hard to get them perfect when they are tiny with glue and wiggling and not to mention the ungluing....
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Yeah, Ellie's ears are TINY (I know they look huge compared to her wee head in her photos, but her whole being is tiny--which makes her ears miniscule!). So the combination of her wiggle, inexperience in gluing and off center placement with oily residue from the glue remover--Ellie looks like an unmade bed. :rolleyes2:
 
It's easier to do with a grooming table and grooming arm. It gives them less wiggle room... especially with the arms that have a piece to hold the neck, and the rear end.
 
Ive never met a groomer who would do ears unless they by chance happen to be a sheltie/collie breeder. honestly I wouldnt let anyone touch the ears unless they were a breeder JMO. If they dont do it correctly they could end up cutting off circulation to the tip of the ear and end up causing tip death to the ear.
Check and see if there are any shows in your area and take your supplies and puppy with you and see if anyone there can give you tips/hints on how to do it...thats actaully how I learned with my pet dog years ago.
 
Lightplum said:
Ive never met a groomer who would do ears unless they by chance happen to be a sheltie/collie breeder. honestly I wouldnt let anyone touch the ears unless they were a breeder JMO. If they dont do it correctly they could end up cutting off circulation to the tip of the ear and end up causing tip death to the ear.
Check and see if there are any shows in your area and take your supplies and puppy with you and see if anyone there can give you tips/hints on how to do it...thats actaully how I learned with my pet dog years ago.
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OMG! How do you cut off the circulation to the ear?!? :eek2: What if I did that already?! Could I do that by twisting the little hairs together to hold the ears on top? :confused2::eek2:
 
No, I wouldn't have a groomer do them either. It's pretty easy to mess them up. I have a friend who caused all but one of the pups in her first two litters to have hound ears (I had the other, and they came out fine), and then even after people showed her how to do this next litter correctly many times she still messed them up.
I like to pick where I"m going to want the breakover, mark it with my finger, and make sure the crease in the ear is going to end up there. I also take them down regularly, and clean them out so I can make sure they are where I want them. Sometimes you'll get one breaking a tad too high/too low, and if you check often, you can correct it.
 
HopeShelties said:
No, I wouldn't have a groomer do them either. It's pretty easy to mess them up. I have a friend who caused all but one of the pups in her first two litters to have hound ears (I had the other, and they came out fine), and then even after people showed her how to do this next litter correctly many times she still messed them up.
I like to pick where I"m going to want the breakover, mark it with my finger, and make sure the crease in the ear is going to end up there. I also take them down regularly, and clean them out so I can make sure they are where I want them. Sometimes you'll get one breaking a tad too high/too low, and if you check often, you can correct it.
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Bacca has hound ears but I'll never know if it was due to my inexperience gluing or not, as I subsequently found out that he was genetically pre-disposed to them. I'm sure I didn't help!

Don't cut the hair between the ears. I made that mistake as well, and then found there wasn't enough hair in between to reglue. So I had to wait for hair to grow back. By then, I'd pretty much decided to give it up, though I still think about giving it one more try.

The best product I found for removing glue is called Detachol. You can get it on eBay.
 
Should you always glue the ears OVER as well as on top? Ellie has a perfect tip right now, so I just glued them on top of her head. Myabe I should have glues them over as well?

I still need to know how you might cut off the circulation to the ear by gluing!
 
I would recommend doing both. You may have a nice tip now, but when she starts to teethe her ears may start going wonky on you (that's when the ear cartilege starts to harden up).

If you can manage it, keep it up for about 12 months, is the most advice I've received.
 
you can cut the circulation off if the crease is too severe. You dont want them bent in half but rather a curl. If you can fit a pencil inbetween on the inside then they are not bent too much. you cant cut off the circulation by just twisting and gluing they are folding over at their own doing there.
 
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