Heartgard--ivermectin/pyrantel

[Megansmom]

This is why I LOVE this forum so much . I can receive fact based easy to understand info on just about any topic.

TY SO much Shelli for your professional input, I really appreciate it. SO should I get Megan tested for this mutated gene before attempting to give her HG or just keep her on Sentinel ?

 

[Fergusmom]

Also if a dog tests positive for the MDR1 gene, doesn't that make taking Heartguard worse? Not sure about that, but there have been threads in the past about the MDR1 gene and Heartguard.

No way am I taking a chance.

Jessica is right. If your sheltie has the MDR1 gene it is dangerous to give invermectin. There is a test for MDR1 if you want to go through the expense. My vet will not give invermectin to shelties either.

 

[take4roll10]

This is why I LOVE this forum so much . I can receive fact based easy to understand info on just about any topic.

TY SO much Shelli for your professional input, I really appreciate it. SO should I get Megan tested for this mutated gene before attempting to give her HG or just keep her on Sentinel ?

Is your dog having any issues with sentinel? Why do you want to put her on heartgard? Sentinel is good heartworm medicine. If your dog isn't have any problems, then I see no reason to spend the money to get her tested for the gene and switch her medicine.

 

[Megansmom]

Is your dog having any issues with sentinel? Why do you want to put her on heartgard? Sentinel is good heartworm medicine. If your dog isn't have any problems, then I see no reason to spend the money to get her tested for the gene and switch her medicine.

I mean you're right and all, I was considering switching her mainly because my sis-in-law Vet sent me a years supply of Heartgard for Christmas. I do have a 6 month supply of Sentinel already, but gosh darn she sure doesnt take it well

 

[take4roll10]

I mean you're right and all, I was considering switching her mainly because my sis-in-law Vet sent me a years supply of Heartgard for Christmas. I do have a 6 month supply of Sentinel already, but gosh darn she sure doesnt take it well

ok well now we know the reason why... lol just put it in a small piece of cheese and she'll eat it with no problem.

I don't know how much the test for the mdr1 gene is, but it'll probably cost more for test then a years supply of heartworm pills. If your puppy is already taking flea preventative, then you can switch to interceptor. It's half the price of sentinel and is the same heartworm medicine. Just doesn't have the flea protection.

Or get the mdr1 test and switch her to heartgard. All up to you, but you do have options.

 

[Smudge]

To each his own, but I'm not taking the chance. Let's say there are 100 people in a room. Then somebody hands everybody a drink. However, before taking the drink they say, ok out of the 100 people in the room 15 of you are going to drop dead from drinking what is in the glass.

How many people still want to drink up?

I have the MDR1 test kit in my room sitting on my desk. It's been there for a long time. I'm afraid of the answer I will get, and so I keep putting it off. Eventually I'm going to suck it up and send it in though.

 

[SheltieGuy]

To each his own, but I'm not taking the chance. Let's say there are 100 people in a room. Then somebody hands everybody a drink. However, before taking the drink they say, ok out of the 100 people in the room 15 of you are going to drop dead from drinking what is in the glass.

How many people still want to drink up?

100% agree..

and the first time i took my sheltie to the vet .. he mentioned Ivermectin at least 10 times throughout our visit ... soo ummm I think I will pass on it ..Interceptor is my drug of choice.. I have tried the flea one and I wasnt impressed by the results. Also I am one of those guys that think the less drugs animals/people are on the better.

Just like the vaccines .. I know my pup needs them but it still bothers me... having all those drugs/viruses pumped into my puppy. He just got his 2nd round of shots and was vomiting the next day (the vet said that may happen ) and he is fine now ..... I guess just like everyone .... ya dont wanna see your loved one suffer or in pain. I am very over protective i guess.(that is why i question everything)..... im glad to have found a vet that will listen ..... i told him before i made the appointment that i trust them and their judgment but may ask for lots of info...( i dont want them to think that I know more than them.. cuz of course i dont or I dont believe them.) It all goes back to watching my first dog suffer and not being able to help her.Now i wanna know ... why ...how...when..where...who... etc. I try not to be a pain in da butt and I am good hearted person.. Im not mean to my vet.Im glad I have found one that understands me. I have to drive an hour but its WELL worth the piece of mind.


I am what I am ..

Sorry for rambling on and on.

 

[Justicemom]

If you are happy with your preventative, I'm not saying change. I like interceptor. I would not force anyone to use anything they are not comfortable with.

The point I'm trying to make is that a dog who is MDR1 mutant has just as much chance reacting to Interceptor, revolution and moxidectin as heartgard.
You have to be careful with all heartworm preventatives. However, heartworm and the medication to treat heartworm is worse yet so therefore it is a nessary evil.

We are talking like Interceptor causes no problems. So don't assume that just because you give interceptor it is a totally safe drug. All drugs have side effects and your dog should be watched carefully for any side effects. I have seen dogs react to heartgard, interceptor, revolution and Proheart 6.(working in vet clinic since 1986 when we used daily Filiabits)

 

[SheltieGuy]

The point I'm trying to make is that a dog who is MDR1 mutant has just as much chance reacting to Interceptor, revolution and moxidectin as heartgard.

OH.. im sorry I missed the most important part of your post Justicemom.
I was never aware of MDR1 until today.

I learn more everday .. I LOVE IT HERE!!!

 

[Megansmom]

It's excellent to have a Vet here on the forum to offer sound medical advice. I really appreciate it a lot Shelli

I guess this is one of those "hot button" topics where we get to agree to disagree and not get offended or disappointed when someone has a different opinion .