susanmccain
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Congrats! It sounds like you have the end in sight with Laddie's papers. I bet you are so excited to get this mess taken care of. I am really happy for you and Laddie.
How can I get "Official Papers"
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Laddie's Mom
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Just heard from the breeder, the papers go in today, so, I should get it in a week or so, sure has been long, but oh well, all's well that ends well.
Fasb's Owner
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Here's something I've been curious about for awhile now. How would I go about getting papers on Fasb, if I wanted?
Fasb's not registered. We "adopted" him from my sister-in-law when she got divorced, and neither of them were able to easily keep a dog, for various reasons. They got Fasb from a college friend of sis-in-law's (my wife also knows the person). The woman's parents owned a pair of purebred shelties, and gave away the pups when the mom had litters. They weren't registered breeders and, at that point, didn't sell the puppies. Honestly, from the stories I've heard, they weren't even responsible dog owners.
When my in-law got Fasb, she was told that the parents were both purebreds and that the mom was a show dog (allegedly, she wasn't a "good" show dog and had been mistreated and abandoned by her original owners). It was implied that both parents had their papers, though I don't think my sister-in-law asked for or saw any proof of that.
Would it even be possible to document Fasb's lineage and get papers on him? I do know the names of his parents, but that's about it. We haven't seen the daughter of the couple who gave Fasb to my sis-in-law in years. We know where the parents (who gave away the puppies) used to live, but they got divorced several years ago, so may well have moved. I assume Fasb's parents are probably deceased by now (Fasb is almost 11).
I'm mostly just curious. I've wondered how we would go about getting papers on Fasb ever since I first heard the story about his mom supposedly being an abandoned show dog. I kinda think either it would be impossible to document his lineage, or the story that both parents are properly documented is incorrect. In any case, Fasb is simply a spoiled companion dog. He's never been trained as a show dog, never will be, and was neutered when he was a puppy (so no puppies out there needing papers). I don't really care if he's ever documented or not. Doesn't change how much we love him. Mostly just wondering if it could be done, and how I would go about it.
Fasb's not registered. We "adopted" him from my sister-in-law when she got divorced, and neither of them were able to easily keep a dog, for various reasons. They got Fasb from a college friend of sis-in-law's (my wife also knows the person). The woman's parents owned a pair of purebred shelties, and gave away the pups when the mom had litters. They weren't registered breeders and, at that point, didn't sell the puppies. Honestly, from the stories I've heard, they weren't even responsible dog owners.
When my in-law got Fasb, she was told that the parents were both purebreds and that the mom was a show dog (allegedly, she wasn't a "good" show dog and had been mistreated and abandoned by her original owners). It was implied that both parents had their papers, though I don't think my sister-in-law asked for or saw any proof of that.
Would it even be possible to document Fasb's lineage and get papers on him? I do know the names of his parents, but that's about it. We haven't seen the daughter of the couple who gave Fasb to my sis-in-law in years. We know where the parents (who gave away the puppies) used to live, but they got divorced several years ago, so may well have moved. I assume Fasb's parents are probably deceased by now (Fasb is almost 11).
I'm mostly just curious. I've wondered how we would go about getting papers on Fasb ever since I first heard the story about his mom supposedly being an abandoned show dog. I kinda think either it would be impossible to document his lineage, or the story that both parents are properly documented is incorrect. In any case, Fasb is simply a spoiled companion dog. He's never been trained as a show dog, never will be, and was neutered when he was a puppy (so no puppies out there needing papers). I don't really care if he's ever documented or not. Doesn't change how much we love him. Mostly just wondering if it could be done, and how I would go about it.
ClantyreSheltie
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The short answer is no.
The long answer is that the breeder has to register the litter, basically letting AKC know that the puppies exist. AKC then mails out the "papers" to the breeders. Those papers are to be distributed at the time of sale (unless otherwise contractually agreed to).
http://www.akc.org/reg/registeralitter.cfm
The long answer is that the breeder has to register the litter, basically letting AKC know that the puppies exist. AKC then mails out the "papers" to the breeders. Those papers are to be distributed at the time of sale (unless otherwise contractually agreed to).
http://www.akc.org/reg/registeralitter.cfm
Fasb's Owner
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I kinda figured that was the answer. Thanks. When we "adopted" Fasb, my sister-in-law told us that we could research Fasb's bloodline and get his papers, if we wanted, but that she had never been interested. I think she might have been told that when she got Fasb, but she also might just be misremembering something someone said to he
In any case, it doesn't matter. Fasb is a great dog just as he is.
Do most people on the forum own pedigreed purebreds, or is it a mix?
In any case, it doesn't matter. Fasb is a great dog just as he is.
Do most people on the forum own pedigreed purebreds, or is it a mix?
HopeShelties
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If you ever want to do dog sports, you can get her an ILP/PAL number with AKC.
Jess041
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I think a good majority of us have purebreds that are registered with a kennel club, but there is also a strong group of members that have mixes or rescues that do not have a pedigree registered. But that does not mean you cannot register with the AKC. You can register as an ILP/PAL like HopeShelties mentioned. http://www.akc.org/reg/ilpex.cfm
If you are interested in knowing the registration status of members dogs, I recommend you start a new thread with a poll. You could set it up like this-
Registered purebred
Rescue purebred with a PAL
Rescue mix
Combination