How many of you use Revolution?

I know you've gone back and forth and maybe aren't even looking for people using Revolution anymore, but I thought I'd share my experience.

We always gave Sentinel and Frontline. I only gave Frontline in the summer to protect from fleas & ticks. We couldn't get Sentinel (or Interceptor) anywhere, and I was sort of panicking. I've heard so many horror stories and just could not decide what to use.

I know that Heartguard and other brands with ivermectin are safe for MDR1 mutant dogs (only one of my dogs has been tested and is clear), but for some reason I just couldn't bring myself to use it.

I didn't want to do Trifexis because I felt like I had heard the most negative anecdotal evidence of reactions.

I couldn't do Advantage because I have a cat.

I didn't want to do Revolution, either, because it didn't protect from all ticks, and I didn't want to use in conjunction with the Frontline I've been using since I don't want to put two topicals on the dogs.

In the end I decided to go with Revolution and see if we had an issue with ticks. I've been using apple cider vinegar and water spray on the dogs when we go walking and I haven't had any issues (knock on wood).
 
corbinam said:
I know you've gone back and forth and maybe aren't even looking for people using Revolution anymore, but I thought I'd share my experience.

We always gave Sentinel and Frontline. I only gave Frontline in the summer to protect from fleas & ticks. We couldn't get Sentinel (or Interceptor) anywhere, and I was sort of panicking. I've heard so many horror stories and just could not decide what to use.

I know that Heartguard and other brands with ivermectin are safe for MDR1 mutant dogs (only one of my dogs has been tested and is clear), but for some reason I just couldn't bring myself to use it.

I didn't want to do Trifexis because I felt like I had heard the most negative anecdotal evidence of reactions.

I couldn't do Advantage because I have a cat.

I didn't want to do Revolution, either, because it didn't protect from all ticks, and I didn't want to use in conjunction with the Frontline I've been using since I don't want to put two topicals on the dogs.

In the end I decided to go with Revolution and see if we had an issue with ticks. I've been using apple cider vinegar and water spray on the dogs when we go walking and I haven't had any issues (knock on wood).
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Thank you for the input! I'm not sure if you read my last post about my extreme blonde moment about the Frontline but basically the problem was administrator error...in a big way. I'm not out of the woods yet as everybody is on Comfortis as of today. I have applied Frontline the RIGHT way now but I won't know if it's working for a couple months (once the Comfortis is out of their system). I have a strong feeling though that the only reason I have fleas is because of my lack of common sense...but for some reason if Frontline doesn't work even with the correct dosage, I will be calling upon a different topical. Thanks again for sharing your experience!
 
Lysette85 said:
Thank you for the input! I'm not sure if you read my last post about my extreme blonde moment about the Frontline but basically the problem was administrator error...in a big way. I'm not out of the woods yet as everybody is on Comfortis as of today. I have applied Frontline the RIGHT way now but I won't know if it's working for a couple months (once the Comfortis is out of their system). I have a strong feeling though that the only reason I have fleas is because of my lack of common sense...but for some reason if Frontline doesn't work even with the correct dosage, I will be calling upon a different topical. Thanks again for sharing your experience!
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In CT, Frontline isn't working as well actually, even with the "correct" dosage :razz: We ended up with an infestation as well (after Riley contracted Lyme on Frontline as well). Switched to Advantix, but that did nothing even with the vacuuming, rug treatments, and capstar (capstan worked, just got reinvested too fast). I finally caved and went with Comfortis...LOTS less fleas quickly. Completely gone in a month (cat got a new flea collar also). We have been flea free ever since :fl
 
Well, gulp....m taking abit of leap of faith this year, even knowing that deer ticks and lyme are a big issue in my area.

I've always had my boys on K9 Advantix....super expensive and only vet prescribed in Ontario, Canada.

We sell Zodiac Powerspot in the store. It made me very uncomfortable selling it without having tried it myself. It's costs about $20 per dog vs. the $60 used to spay for 4 months coverage.

So far so good! We bring the dogs to cottage country every weekend, and so for no ticks, no fleas.

btw - In Ottawa, at least, there has been a big radio blitz from the Vet association encouraging people to medicate their dogs. I'm grateful that they are educating the public, but I expect that they are also trying to protect their margins too, but owning the flea/tick space.

Believe me though.....if my dogs end up with either one by end of the season, I'll be the first to go flying back to my vet....(and maybe pull the product off my shelf as well)
 
BarbV said:
Well, gulp....m taking abit of leap of faith this year, even knowing that deer ticks and lyme are a big issue in my area.

I've always had my boys on K9 Advantix....super expensive and only vet prescribed in Ontario, Canada.

We sell Zodiac Powerspot in the store. It made me very uncomfortable selling it without having tried it myself. It's costs about $20 per dog vs. the $60 used to spay for 4 months coverage.

So far so good! We bring the dogs to cottage country every weekend, and so for no ticks, no fleas.

btw - In Ottawa, at least, there has been a big radio blitz from the Vet association encouraging people to medicate their dogs. I'm grateful that they are educating the public, but I expect that they are also trying to protect their margins too, but owning the flea/tick space.

Believe me though.....if my dogs end up with either one by end of the season, I'll be the first to go flying back to my vet....(and maybe pull the product off my shelf as well)
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That's great that you found something that works so well! I was reading about fleas and how the pupae can survive for a year lying dormant in cottages, seasonal homes, etc. So with how much your dogs are out in the thick of it what a relief to have protection like that! Frontline was perfect for me in that way-till I bought the "kit" and learned I didn't know how to read a darn syringe. I'm going to be kicking myself for a good long while about this one!
 
Lysette85 said:
:hide Well, I've officially had my blonde moment of the year. I've been giving my pets Frontline Plus in a kit form to save money. I started using this method in December and assumed it was working because I had no fleas..but come to think of it I started seeing signs of flea dirt but just thought it was dirt from my cat that rolls in the dusty driveway. Well, here we are a full on flea infestation later and I'm wondering what went wrong. I took out my last 4mL dosage of Frontline, and thought...hm, if there's only 4 mL in here and between 2 dogs (they get 1.3 mL each) and 2 cats (0.5 mL each) why the heck is one tube lasting me for months??? Turns out, I've been reading the syringe wrong this whole time. Instead of giving my cats a half a mL, I've been giving them half of a TENTH of a mL. Call me crazy but I always thought a mL was just a few drops..nope. (Shows how much i retained from doing labs in chem class) Don't know why I didn't see this sooner, I'll chalk it up to gping through a bad breakup in December, then a move all by myself, and other crud as well...but I'm thanking all that is holy and unholy that the situation wasn't the other way around (giving them too much).
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Try not to beat yourself up, stuff like this happens. But yes, thank goodness you were giving them too little instead of too much.

At least you know why you've been having the problem, so now you know how to fix it. :smile2:
 
Revolution.

Hi just to add to the list, I have used Revolution for my Shelties for years and have been very happy with the results. :fl
 
Hi,

Just thought I'd toss a link out there as people were discussing a commonly available IGR.

http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=precor

I got the 16 oz bottle of a better, light qstable product (Nyguard) for outside, and have enough to spray my yard and foundation for years with the pyrethroid Bifenthrin they also sell. I hadn't really thought of making my own topical, however they also carry Pyrethrin/Permethrins, so I could if I really wanted to.
However I just rechecked their site and came across this pet spray that could be used weekly.
http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/petcor-flea-spray-precor-igr

I'd have to do a comparison against some of the normal topicals to see if I feel safe using it weekly. However since it is rather low dose, it might be worth considering.

Good link on different pesticides. I wasn't aware Bifenthrin was simply a Pyrethroid versus a more chemically man-made toxin.
"Fortunately most pyrethroids are not that easily absorbed through the skin as are pyrethrins."

http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/782/
 
VallejoSheltie said:
Hi,

Just thought I'd toss a link out there as people were discussing a commonly available IGR.

http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=precor

I got the 16 oz bottle of a better, light qstable product (Nyguard) for outside, and have enough to spray my yard and foundation for years with the pyrethroid Bifenthrin they also sell. I hadn't really thought of making my own topical, however they also carry Pyrethrin/Permethrins, so I could if I really wanted to.
However I just rechecked their site and came across this pet spray that could be used weekly.
http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/petcor-flea-spray-precor-igr

I'd have to do a comparison against some of the normal topicals to see if I feel safe using it weekly. However since it is rather low dose, it might be worth considering.

Good link on different pesticides. I wasn't aware Bifenthrin was simply a Pyrethroid versus a more chemically man-made toxin.
"Fortunately most pyrethroids are not that easily absorbed through the skin as are pyrethrins."

http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/782/
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I'm not sure I'd be comfortable using pesticides that were not 100% intended for pets. I personally would not be comfortable with calculating the dose and would not recommend it.

It would be too easy to give them too much, which is often the problem with spot ons. People don't buy the single doses and try to mix it themselves and measure incorrectly or mix up the single doses and give their small dog the large dog dose. The results can be disastrous and lead to permanent, irreversible damage or death.

These are toxic chemicals and IMO, unless you're a chemist or someone who specializes in chemicals, I would not try to create my own pest control spray.
 
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OntarioSheltie said:
I'm not sure I'd be comfortable using pesticides that were not 100% intended for pets. I personally would not be comfortable with calculating the dose and would not recommend it.

It would be too easy to give them too much, which is often the problem with spot ons. People don't buy the single doses and try to mix it themselves and measure incorrectly or mix up the single doses and give their small dog the large dog dose. The results can be disastrous and lead to permanent, irreversible damage or death.

These are toxic chemicals and IMO, unless you're a chemist or someone who specializes in chemicals, I would not try to create my own pest control spray.
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I agree. In retrospect I'd edit that out if I could now, as there are too many variables, general lack of scientific knowledge, and common math mistakes could easily hurt your pet.

However just to play devil's advocate for a minute, there are cases where people are using common products in place of over-priced pet pharmecuticals.

Lets take Fipronil, one of the common anti-flea topicals made by BASF.

The Fipronil in BASF Termidor is at 9.1%, w/90.9% inerts
The Fipronil in Frontline Topspot is at 9.7% w/90.3% inerts

Someone noticed this, and decided to try it on their dog, seeing as it is a slightly weaker form of Fipronil on a ml to ml basis. According to the other forums I visit, many of those which are geared towards actual hunting dogs, coonhounds, bluenoses, etc, this is rather old news, and accepted practice.
There have been no reports of adverse health issues, which makes sense as Fipronil is a water-soluble product which would most likely mean that the 'inert ingredients' is all/mostly water.

Again, I'm not trying to push anyone into doing likewise, just pointing whats going on outside the Sheltie world as I come across it.

From an economics POV, it is certainly enticing.
On a cost basis, per 1800petmeds,for a 23-44# dog:

Per 1.34 ml applicator Topspot Fipronil 9.7% is ~$12/dose

BASF Termidor is ~$65 for 20 oz or 591ml
591/1.34 = 441 doses or $0.14/dose

Costs aside though, no/limited adverse reactions in hunting dogs does not mean there would likewise be the same results with a Sheltie. Not sure I'd consider it unless there was some real financial hardship.
 
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